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re: Craig Steltz vs. Eric Reid
Posted on 7/31/12 at 2:14 pm to JBeam
Posted on 7/31/12 at 2:14 pm to JBeam
I absolutely love Laron Landry. One of my all time players ever. To date, he is the best safety we have ever had. But, in a few years, I think we all will be saying Eric Reid is the best safety we have had. Laron was the best run supporting safety/blitzer in college football when he was at LSU and he absolutely destroyed people. Only thing Laron had problems with at LSU was his catching. Im not going to bring up his issues with the double move in the NFL because its just not fair to do that when comparing him and Reid. But, Reid does it all as good as Laron did it at LSU. Only thing he doesnt have over Laron is the intimidating factor.
Now that i think about it, wasnt Laron at SS with Jesse Daniels playing free? Only reason I bring it up is because Eric Reid is a true FS, and a true FS doesnt have the stats that a SS playing around the line would.
Now that i think about it, wasnt Laron at SS with Jesse Daniels playing free? Only reason I bring it up is because Eric Reid is a true FS, and a true FS doesnt have the stats that a SS playing around the line would.
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 2:18 pm
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 2:14 pm to biglil3
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Reid>>>Steltz by a mile!!! Reid will be a 1st rd pick after his jr yr....Steltz is a special teams player...Steltz was smart and a product of the system, Reid is a beast...not even fair to compare them, and I'm a big Steltz fan!!
IMO biglil gets the last word! There's no comparison. Reid is taller, faster and smarter. Reid is just at a completely higher level.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 2:39 pm to JBeam
Who said they did?
Posted on 7/31/12 at 2:46 pm to KG5989
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Now that i think about it, wasnt Laron at SS with Jesse Daniels playing free?
in Saban's D, he was FS to Hunt's/ Daniels's SS. not sure how Pelini had em designated. FS isn't always necessarily the center fielder, as SS isn't always the "in the box"/ run support guy.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 2:53 pm to KG5989
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I absolutely love Laron Landry. One of my all time players ever. To date, he is the best safety we have ever had. But, in a few years, I think we all will be saying Eric Reid is the best safety we have had. Laron was the best run supporting safety/blitzer in college football when he was at LSU and he absolutely destroyed people. Only thing Laron had problems with at LSU was his catching. Im not going to bring up his issues with the double move in the NFL because its just not fair to do that when comparing him and Reid. But, Reid does it all as good as Laron did it at LSU. Only thing he doesnt have over Laron is the intimidating factor.
This just isn't true. Laron had no trouble in coverage while at LSU. It wasn't until he bulked up, in the NFL , that he lost his hip swivel and started to suffer in coverage. He was a damn good all around safety at LSU. It why he went number 6 overall
Posted on 7/31/12 at 2:57 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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People see him not covering well in the nfl and think that's how he was at LSU, which is totally false. He covered great at LSU.
he wasn't good in coverage at LSU. he was also HORRIBLE playing the ball in the air
Posted on 7/31/12 at 3:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he wasn't good in coverage at LSU. he was also HORRIBLE playing the ball in the air
Yes he was. You don't get drafted 6 overall as a safety who can't cover.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 3:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
While I may have said great in coverage. He was good in coverage not great. He wasn't bad like some people seem to think.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 3:03 pm to goldenbadger08
Steltz was pretty solid. However he'd get beat in man coverage a little too much. But he more than made up for it with some of the hits he dished out.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 3:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he wasn't good in coverage at LSU. he was also HORRIBLE playing the ball in the air
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2007 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report: LaRon Landry, FS, LSU LaRon Landry is exceptionally athletic and shows great instincts finding and pursuing the ball. He has excellent coverage skills and very good hands, as demonstrated with his 12 career interceptions at LSU. Landry is an aggressive player and doesn't shy from attacking the line of scrimmage on running plays. He is a playmaker and really brings the lumber with his hard-hitting style against his opponents. Landry has a great combination of size, speed and natural instincts to excel at the next level. Landry may need to add some bulk to contend with the more physical receivers in the NFL. He was an impact player at LSU from his debut as a freshman through his senior campaign, earning numerous honors along the way. Landry led the LSU defense in total tackles for three of his four years. He opted to return to LSU for his senior season, despite being projected as a late first round pick in the NFL Draft following his junior season. LaRon Landry is nearly a lock to hear his named called in the first round, most likely a top 15 selection.
That is his scouting report coming out of college. I'll take his word over some Internet fan.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 3:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he wasn't good in coverage at LSU. he was also HORRIBLE playing the ball in the air
Seems like you were wrong.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 3:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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This just isn't true. Laron had no trouble in coverage while at LSU
Did i ever say Laron had trouble covering while at LSU? nope. Actually i said the only problem he had while at LSU was catching the ball. Thats all. I said he has had troubles in the NFL covering, but not going to bring that up because Reid hasnt even been in the NFL. And actually, I dont think hes lost movement in his hips because he bulked up. He just has troubles guarding the speed demons in the NFL. Never said shite about his coverage skills while at LSU. I mean this is what i said
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Only thing Laron had problems with at LSU was his catching. Im not going to bring up his issues with the double move in the NFL because its just not fair to do that when comparing him and Reid
Posted on 7/31/12 at 3:28 pm to goldenbadger08
I believe Craig Steltz has done more in his career at LSU than Reid. My Rummel boy CS was one of the best I ccan ever remember, that being saod Reid needs to light it up to surpass CS! Raider Pride!
Posted on 7/31/12 at 3:35 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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That is his scouting report coming out of college. I'll take his word over some Internet fan.
Yea and everything they said in that report is 100 true... Scouting reports also said JaMarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf were cant miss players. And just because he got drafted 6 overall doesnt mean he is a lock. I guarantee that if you could ask NFL GMs today if they would take Laron #6 in that draft most of them would say they wouldnt. We get it, you are absolutely obsessed with Laron. And he was in all means a STUD at LSU. Nobody is saying he sucks. Just overrated. If I had to chose a FS between Laron and Reid, I would take Reid. But just beacuse some scouts said hes great in coverage, doesnt make it true.
And you do realize that those scouts are also the biggest "computer" nerds in the industry dont you?
Posted on 7/31/12 at 3:43 pm to LSUstephen17
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I believe Craig Steltz has done more in his career at LSU than Reid.
He played 4 years, Reid's played 2.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 3:43 pm to loweralabamatrojan
Jack Hunt > Steltz
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:30 pm to KG5989
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Reid is already better than Steltz ever was at LSU after this past season.
Steltz hasnt turned into a great pro, but he is an all time great safety at LSU
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and he blitzed way more than Reid.
gotta love the rant
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:32 pm to JBeam
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didn't the majority of Steltz's INTs come at the beginning of the BCSNG season?
Craig Steltz had 11 career INTs.
safe to say they all didnt come against Miss state.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 7:19 pm to goldenbadger08
I dont know about who is best out of the two I like them both but I dont think Reid brings the wood like steltz he was a hard hiting mofo
Posted on 7/31/12 at 7:25 pm to kuntrykingpin318
Didn't Steltz only start one year ('07) whereas Reid was already starting as a Soph?
On one hand, I think it would be really unfair to have expected Steltz to have bumped LaRon Landry from the starting lineup and on the other, Eric Reid is a fixture in some of the best secondaries we've ever had.
Just don't see how anyone can compare the two based on stats. Moreover, they may play a similar position but our schemes now seem different than Pelini's.
On one hand, I think it would be really unfair to have expected Steltz to have bumped LaRon Landry from the starting lineup and on the other, Eric Reid is a fixture in some of the best secondaries we've ever had.
Just don't see how anyone can compare the two based on stats. Moreover, they may play a similar position but our schemes now seem different than Pelini's.
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