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re: Could LSU win a rematch with JJ?

Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141331 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:16 pm to
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LSU has to turn over the ball in order to win.


as paraphrased by geauxgeebs
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12463 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:16 pm to
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Could LSU win a rematch with JJ?
We already did...November 5, 2011 WAS the rematch. Pay attention.
Posted by ztucke2
Fort Worth
Member since Oct 2010
2125 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:17 pm to
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What is up with giving Lee, in the final 30 seconds to come in and kneel the ball after he took us through the tougest part of our schedule.


I don't know brah, you should probably start a topic and see what the rant thinks
Posted by HoustonLadyTiger
Houston
Member since Oct 2011
167 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:21 pm to
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If Bama would have scored just one touchdown, we would have lost. Can't credit a QB as being their kryptonite with that kind of production.


If Randall had caught the pass in the end zone, LSU would have scored and won 13-6 with no OT. If Ford had not stepped on the line at the 7, his TD would have been good and LSU would have won 13-6! IF, IF, IF...give it a rest on the blame game!! LSU won 9-6 and all else is speculation and lack of fan support for what is!!!
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:25 pm to
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no...JJ can never beat bama again because everyone knows that the first half of the UGA game is exactly how him and the o-line will play a month from now. its science


exactly...whereas if we used Lee's first half vs. Auburn we'd win easily against Bama. I just hope Saban isn't looking at those West Va game tapes and changing his offense to the Holgerson scheme that completely destroyed Chavis
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18371 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:26 pm to
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I just hope Saban isn't looking at those West Va game tapes and changing his offense to the Holgerson scheme that completely destroyed Chavis


I hope he does do this, I'm calling 3 picks for the D!
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7712 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:26 pm to
OK, my personal opinion is that LSU would not survive another first half like last night against Bama. UGA had NO running game, so while our defense was on the field the whole 1st half, they were not getting physically beat up. It would be much more physical against Bama, and that would make a huge difference. Our offense cannot take a half off against a team like Bama and expect defense and special teams to pick up the slack. It will take all 3 phases of the game to win against a team the caliber of Bama. If you don't believe that, you're fooling yourself.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:27 pm to
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JJ gives us the best shot against Bama any time


Yeah, people want the guy with a 1-7 td-int rate over the guy with a 2-0 rate.
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:28 pm to
I think you mean can or will not could and GTFO
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141331 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:31 pm to
transitive logic seldom applies in football. if it does, there really isn't a need for a rematch on a neutral field.

Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7712 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:35 pm to
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transitive logic seldom applies in football.

You lost me ... I'm simply stating that LSU cannot afford a repeat performance of the first half against a team like Bama. Not sure why there's any debate with this statement.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18371 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:41 pm to
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. I'm simply stating that LSU cannot afford a repeat performance of the first half against a team like Bama. Not sure why there's any debate with this statement


The debate is even if LSU's offense has the repeat performance, the D and Special teams can put up point or stop Bama's O. Quit discredtiting the team.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:43 pm to
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I'm simply stating that LSU cannot afford a repeat performance of the first half against a team like Bama.
We get the same first half, do we get the same second half?

Coaches do adjust strategy and risk level to situations on the field.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12463 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:45 pm to
Because it's dumb to assume there would be a repeat.

But although I agree transitive doesn't apply in football, I'm willing to step out on a limb and say LSU can't beat Bama with Lee coming in throwing INTs all over the place and looking like a deer in headlights. I'm more positive of that than what you're saying.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7712 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:51 pm to
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Quit discredtiting the team.

Who's discrediting the team? I don't believe LSU can leave any one phase of the game at home and still win against Bama in a rematch. The same would go for Bama. It's not discrediting the team, it's respecting the opponent.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295342 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:52 pm to
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But although I agree transitive doesn't apply in football, I'm willing to step out on a limb and say LSU can't beat Bama with Lee coming in throwing INTs all over the place and looking like a deer in headlights. I'm more positive of that than what you're saying.


People like yourself make me SO glad that Mettenberger will be the QB next year.
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6883 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:54 pm to
From ESPN:

4. Quarterback play isn't a factor for the Tigers: No matter how bad Jordan Jefferson looks or how many of his passes skip toward his receivers, LSU figures out ways to get the offense going. Jefferson looked more like a freshman quarterback in the first half, completing two passes for 7 yards. He was lucky that he didn't turn the ball over with some of the passes he chucked downfield. But in the second half, the Tigers got away from the pass and ran it more. The more the Tigers churned out yards on the ground, the weaker the Bulldogs got. From there, Jefferson only needed to complete three more passes and finished with just 30 yards. Jefferson was far from great, and it didn't affect LSU at all in the second half. But that has been the Tigers' story for most of the season. LSU hasn't had stellar quarterback play since Jarrett Lee lost his starting job, but LSU is still headed to the national title game.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18371 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:54 pm to
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Who's discrediting the team? I don't believe LSU can leave any one phase of the game at home and still win against Bama in a rematch. The same would go for Bama. It's not discrediting the team, it's respecting the opponent.


If it is what you believe then I can't say otherwise. But I know better after watching this years team.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295342 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 2:56 pm to
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4. Quarterback play isn't a factor for the Tigers: No matter how bad Jordan Jefferson looks or how many of his passes skip toward his receivers, LSU figures out ways to get the offense going. Jefferson looked more like a freshman quarterback in the first half, completing two passes for 7 yards. He was lucky that he didn't turn the ball over with some of the passes he chucked downfield. But in the second half, the Tigers got away from the pass and ran it more. The more the Tigers churned out yards on the ground, the weaker the Bulldogs got. From there, Jefferson only needed to complete three more passes and finished with just 30 yards. Jefferson was far from great, and it didn't affect LSU at all in the second half. But that has been the Tigers' story for most of the season. LSU hasn't had stellar quarterback play since Jarrett Lee lost his starting job, but LSU is still headed to the national title game.


Nailed it. LSU wins despite the QB play, finds a way to work around it.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 2:58 pm
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7712 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 3:01 pm to
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But I know better after watching this years team.

No, that is what you believe ... it just doesn't coincide with my thoughts.
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