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Corner Play Question
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:06 pm
When corners are having to play the receiver and constantly make-up ground is it because:
1. They don’t have the hips for the position?
2. They don’t have the speed for the position ie turn their backs to run faster?
3. They are playing out of position?
4. Inexperienced?
5. Combination of all of the above?
1. They don’t have the hips for the position?
2. They don’t have the speed for the position ie turn their backs to run faster?
3. They are playing out of position?
4. Inexperienced?
5. Combination of all of the above?
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 5:16 pm
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:08 pm to Tiger1988
matt house
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:10 pm to Tiger1988
Could be a lot of things but technique and hips are huge at that position. Have to also be able to read the WRs well and time the flip from backpedal to running with the WR almost perfectly. Too early and you are susceptible to come backs, outs, square ins etc, too late and your man can just run by you and only elite speed can catch up. Super tough position to play.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:14 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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matt house
So don’t answer the question. Are any of them applicable to that backfield?
Lack of talent and players playing most of the season is why.
On starting corner didn’t make it out of fall camp and 2 others that were to be relied on were bad apples, then there was Alexander was the best that they had and he was injured. And nobody knows the impact of Greg Brooks situation but it was HUGE for communication and scheme. You don’t go from being the number 5 scoring defense in the SEC and 22 overall unless things happen including missing on player evaluation that were to be counted on as at least 1 starter and another back-up that were boneheads.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:21 pm to Tiger1988
Sometimes they are out of position.. but more times than not it’s their hips and eye discipline.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:22 pm to Tiger1988
Our defense is taught to "be in place" and "read" the offense. They appear to be slow readers who play "safe". Offenses runfreely beneath them or run freely past them while they overthink. This is mostly coaching.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:22 pm to Tiger1988
Well 2 of our “corners” are supposed to be safeties
I liked some of what i saw from Welch but he has limited athletically. Stamps has some nice tools. Just needs reps and to get healthy.
Our DBs as a unit are poorly coached. No ball skills or location, out of phase when they’re supposed to be in phase. Even when they went trail, they were trailing way too much. Poor tacklers. You name it.
Chestnut was a midget but Alexander was coming along before his injury.
We need some players but even good players need good coaching.
I liked some of what i saw from Welch but he has limited athletically. Stamps has some nice tools. Just needs reps and to get healthy.
Our DBs as a unit are poorly coached. No ball skills or location, out of phase when they’re supposed to be in phase. Even when they went trail, they were trailing way too much. Poor tacklers. You name it.
Chestnut was a midget but Alexander was coming along before his injury.
We need some players but even good players need good coaching.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:25 pm to Bayoubengal205
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but more times than not it’s their hips and eye discipline.
Sage Ryan is not a corner. But this experience will help him be a MUCH better safety next season if he works on his tackling. His hip flex just isn’t there for that position.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:27 pm to Tiger1988
What corner play?
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:31 pm to S
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No ball skills or location, out of phase when they’re supposed to be in phase.
How much was experience? Remember some didn’t start out of necessity until mid-season. How much did DLine and LB play contribute to Safety Play when in zone because of run support?
I think the LB play is not filling and attacking with poor tackling was just terrible. They were slow as well. Weeks was not ready for damn sure and Perkins regressed.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:45 pm to Tiger1988
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How much was experience?
Stamps has some good qualities but yea our young guys will only get better with reps.
Pass rush certainly helps make it easier for the back end. As you know we struggled getting consistent pressure.
House basically throwing his hands up and saying “welp, we’re doomed and this is all we can do” didn’t help. Come on man!
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:47 pm to Tiger1988
Poor technique being taught
Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:50 pm to Tiger1988
Obviously it could be any or all of them. Usually players that get offered by major colleges have the hips and the speed. So the cornerback position is intuitive. Technique and pre-snap positioning helps a lot but to stay with a guy who is as fast you in man coverage…..it’s going to come down to repetition and anticipation.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:14 pm to Tiger1988
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When corners are having to play the receiver and constantly make-up ground is it because:
1. They don’t have the hips for the position?
2. They don’t have the speed for the position ie turn their backs to run faster?
3. They are playing out of position?
4. Inexperienced?
5. Combination of all of the above?
Wow, I could write a book to answer this question (but will not), and many have been written, over the years.
Simply put, the receiver knows what he will be doing on any given pass route; the defender will have to react to the movements made by the receiver and consequently will be constantly in "catch-up mode". Advantage to the receiver. Why do you think a majority of passes result in completions in football?
Think about how our WRs have torched many very talented DBs (including players who would become high draft picks) over the years.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:15 pm to lsugradman
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Could be a lot of things but technique and hips are huge at that position
And that fall on coaching to develop
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