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re: Copy of Motion for Dismissal of Charges
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:09 pm to acgeaux129
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:09 pm to acgeaux129
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Why are you being intentionally obtuse?
I was responding to your initial sarcastic comment that suggested the mere fact that JJ's lawyer filed papers to dismiss the charges was evidence that JJ MUST be innocent. That's asinine. It's the type of thing someone says who would suggest that only a guilty person needs an attorney if arrested.
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I told you that's irrelevant. I'm talking about people's reactions on here.
I have no idea to what you're referring here. Please quote me if you're going to respond to something specific I said and I'll be happy to respond in kind.
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:09 pm to Godfather1
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You're another one who doesn't seem to understand how "at-will" employment works.
I've known people who were arrested, and not given a "leave-of absence", but out-and-out FIRED. Just for being arrested. The reason being that an arrest looks bad for an employee, and the employer doesn't want that to reflect poorly on THEM.
If the employer fills the arrested employee's job, and the charges against the employee are dropped, that's not the employer's problem. They have to protect their best interests and can hire/fire for any reason they see fit. Life ain't fair.
well...thats grounds for a lawsuit in many states
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You seem to be promoting the idea that playing football is JJ's RIGHT. THAT is bullshite. Playing football for LSU is a PRIVILEGE which, like any other can be revoked for any reason.
it has to be a justifiable reason.
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Right now, I'm more concerned w/ what's fair to 83 or so other players who are trying to win a NC THIS year.
as am i. but i would also like JJ treated fairly if charges are dropped.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:10 pm to rds dc
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Wow, this sounds great. All LSU players are 100% innocent! The only thing that happened was JJ pulled non-involved LSU players away from the fight.
It's really amazing
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:10 pm to Godfather1
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Say you're accused of something and given a leave of absence from your job...later the charges are dropped or you're found innocent of any wrong doing...would you expect to be allowed back to work? Would you be pissed if your boss said "You know what? I know it was never proven that you did anything wrong but we're going to go ahead and fire you anyway."
Happens all the time.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:11 pm to acgeaux129
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I severely disagree. He is going to be fed the most one-sided viewpoint imaginable.
Will see. My guess is that the LSU administration has other information. If not, JJ would or should be playing right now.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:12 pm to GeauxTigerTM
You aren't usually this ridiculous. Of course his attorney is going to motion for this if his client tells him he's innocent. I was referring to people here on the first few pages talking about how terrible BRPD is, and how he needs to be compensated in some way for the damages.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:12 pm to Choctaw
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as am i. but i would also like JJ treated fairly if charges are dropped.
I agree. He has sat long enough for punishment for any othe infraction. It's doing what is right and fair.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:13 pm to Choctaw
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well...thats grounds for a lawsuit in many states
A lawsuit that would be laughed out of court.
Employers have a right to protect their interests. Nobody "owes" you a job.
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it has to be a justifiable reason.
bullshite. It can be any reason Coach Miles and the university see fit. It's THEIR program.
Again, nobody "owes" JJ a fricking thing.
This post was edited on 9/17/11 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
i just state this one more time before i leave...
it completely boggles my mind that there are people that do not want JJ reinstated even if charges are dropped. Thats just frickin' ridiculous.
it completely boggles my mind that there are people that do not want JJ reinstated even if charges are dropped. Thats just frickin' ridiculous.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:14 pm to Godfather1
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Employers have a right to protect their interests. Nobody "owes" you a job.
ever heard of "wrongful termination"?
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:15 pm to TheDoc
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It's really amazing
I am shocked! 11F is rich as well. No one knows who kicked him. I guess just some random rantard was walking by and decided to get in on the action.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
BRPD is not at fault. Every step is done by the letter and the BRPD is handling this as required.
CLM is only acting on the information (evidence) he has been provided. He's a deliberate man and won't make a bad judgement choice on an issue with one of his players, particularly off of the field.
JJ's family should have great appreciation for CLM and how he has had JJ's back for the last 3 years. Amazed they would think any other way.
Unglesby is not helping. Understandable from an Ole Miss grad.
CLM is only acting on the information (evidence) he has been provided. He's a deliberate man and won't make a bad judgement choice on an issue with one of his players, particularly off of the field.
JJ's family should have great appreciation for CLM and how he has had JJ's back for the last 3 years. Amazed they would think any other way.
Unglesby is not helping. Understandable from an Ole Miss grad.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:16 pm to Choctaw
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ever heard of "wrongful termination"?
Ever heard of "contract employment"?
Because that's usually where this occurs. Not in the case of "at-will" employment.
ETA: And before you go there, has JJ's scholly been pulled? NO.
This post was edited on 9/17/11 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:17 pm to acgeaux129
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You aren't usually this ridiculous
Honestly not trying to be...without you quoting me I'm just not following your points...sorry.
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I was referring to people here on the first few pages talking about how terrible BRPD is, and how he needs to be compensated in some way for the damages
I have no first hand knowledge regarding the BRPD...so I can;t speak to that. From the outside, at least in terms of the PR of this thing, it has looked bungled...but that's just my impression. As for being compensated, that's just stupid. By whom? LSU? The BRPD? Nah...it's a shitty situation (again, assuming he's not guilty) but unfortunately shitty things happen all the damn time. Now...if it was to turn out that JJ was KNOWN to be not involved and someone was knowingly involving JJ in this simply to have him arrested which would trigger the suspension, then I could see looking for someone to sue...but I don't think that's the case here.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:17 pm to Choctaw
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it completely boggles my mind that there are people that do not want JJ reinstated even if charges are dropped. Thats just frickin' ridiculous.
I agree on this. We are not to that point yet, though. Reinstatement is only fair IMO, and even if JJ returns next year (RS this year) Mettenberger would be the starter. JJ's time is now and I would hate to see his senior season marred if he is truly innocent. I doubt he would start immediately but would be availiabe for B/U. It's about doing what is right. When we get to that point.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:21 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Right, I'm glad that people have the disposition to assume innocence until guilt is proven, and I understand nothing concrete has been released to the public. Hillar Moore has always been a friend of LSU athletics to say the least, and I seriously doubt he would have the investigation continue if he didn't think there was something substantial going on.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Listen UP...Social Morons....This has absolutely nothing to do with football. This is a matter of legal right and wrong. BRPD rushed to make an arrest and had absolutely NOTHING to base the warrant on....PERIOD.
This case will NEVER go anywhere and the DA will more than likely dismiss all charges and JJ will be reinstated....Take it for what it's worth.
This case will NEVER go anywhere and the DA will more than likely dismiss all charges and JJ will be reinstated....Take it for what it's worth.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:23 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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have no first hand knowledge regarding the BRPD...so I can;t speak to that. From the outside, at least in terms of the PR of this thing, it has looked bungled...but that's just my impression.
My biggest problem w/ BRPD in all of this is that they had no business even commenting on an ongoing investigation. Totally unprofessional, and borderline unethical.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:24 pm to TigerEye2
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Listen UP...Social Morons....
Dumbass, half the people you call morons are agreeing with you.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:25 pm to TigerEye2
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Take it for what it's worth.
which isnt much.
oh noz jj's lawyer filed a motion... case closed.
this thing has a while yet to play out
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