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re: College Football Hall of Fame - Les Miles
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:33 pm to TigerBait2008
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:33 pm to TigerBait2008
quote:
What makes leach hof worthy?
Ever heard of the air raid offense? He literally changed the game
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:35 pm to JimTiger72
quote:
Mike Leach deserves it more than Les
Why is that? I feel I know why most people say he should be in there... but it's not gonna be a popular statement.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:15 pm to John Casey
Leach was an innovator, a walking sound byte, and a great coach/person who should be in the HOF. But tbh, he never won anything of note.
Les Miles was stubborn and unwilling to adapt to the times, and wasn't a great person. But he won a lot at LSU, including a Natty, in an extremely difficult conference. If Drew Brees goes to Miami instead of the Saints, Les Miles may have been in the conversation of being the GOAT.
Let's not act like the Vadal thing was not similar to what most/all winning P5 coaches ever did. They were all pulling whatever shenanigans they could dream up to pay players and their families to come to their schools. I guarantee you the actual GOAT, Nick Saban, would have had to vacate every single Bama win if a silent, invisible drone would have recorded all his recruiting deeds.
Les Miles was stubborn and unwilling to adapt to the times, and wasn't a great person. But he won a lot at LSU, including a Natty, in an extremely difficult conference. If Drew Brees goes to Miami instead of the Saints, Les Miles may have been in the conversation of being the GOAT.
Let's not act like the Vadal thing was not similar to what most/all winning P5 coaches ever did. They were all pulling whatever shenanigans they could dream up to pay players and their families to come to their schools. I guarantee you the actual GOAT, Nick Saban, would have had to vacate every single Bama win if a silent, invisible drone would have recorded all his recruiting deeds.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:23 pm to dcw7g
quote:
[Shouldn’t they vacate Miles’ losses too? I mean if Vadal was ineligible in a win, he was also ineligible in the losses. ]
Didn't have many losses in those years to vacate
Looks like 14 loses in that span. Those also vacated would truly be a 108-59 record which is a 64.7%.
This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:24 pm to John Casey
They should’ve let Mike Leach in as a contributor instead of lowering the standards, he certainly deserves to be in but his record doesn’t tell the story of his teams always punching above their weight because of his innovative offenses.
This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:27 pm to John Casey
Great offensive mind; however, no conference championships. Hall of Fame ???
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:33 pm to John Casey
Mike Leach deserves it more than Les
Les Miles:
Championships
1 national (2007)
2 SEC (2007, 2011)
3 SEC Western Division (2005, 2007, 2011)
Mike Leach:
ZERO
Les Miles:
Championships
1 national (2007)
2 SEC (2007, 2011)
3 SEC Western Division (2005, 2007, 2011)
Mike Leach:
ZERO
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:35 pm to John Casey
Mike Leach deserves it more than Les, no offense
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:37 pm to AkronTiger
ISWYDT
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:53 pm to AkronTiger
quote:
Mike Leach deserves it more than Les, no offense
Why??
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:56 pm to Bloodworth
quote:
Still pissed that Herbstreit opened his big mouth ahead of him leaving for Michigan
You mean a month before winning another national championship for LSU?
Come on, give me a break. Les Miles in 2007 was great. Les Miles in 2016 was not. He was perfect for LSU in 2007, though.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:58 pm to LSUFanMizeWay
quote:
Hate him all you want, but he won here maybe not like Satan
Miles on the field had a better winning percentage at LSU than Saban.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 2:10 pm to John Casey
If you're evaluating based on impact on the championship race, then Mike Leach never won a meaningful game in his career.
Him dying in the job seems to have really elevated the retrospective analysis of his career for some people.
Him dying in the job seems to have really elevated the retrospective analysis of his career for some people.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 2:24 pm to TooFyeToFly
quote:
Him dying in the job seems to have really elevated the retrospective analysis of his career for some people
yep
Posted on 5/29/25 at 2:33 pm to John Casey
He won a national championship at LSU. He should be honored to an extent by LSU that’s about it. He’s not some CFB legend.
Really the same goes for O. He had his moment with LSU so we should honor him but the sport as a whole definitely doesn’t owe Les or O a damn thing.
Really the same goes for O. He had his moment with LSU so we should honor him but the sport as a whole definitely doesn’t owe Les or O a damn thing.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 2:37 pm to turnpiketiger
quote:
He won a national championship at LSU. He should be honored to an extent by LSU that’s about it. He’s not some CFB legend.
Really the same goes for O. He had his moment with LSU so we should honor him but the sport as a whole definitely doesn’t owe Les or O a damn thing.
Swampmonster couldn't hold Les's jock. 2019 was the biggest of flukes. Les actually ran this program well for over decade and is one Saban decision to come back to the SEC decision away from being one of the all time college coaches.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 2:41 pm to JimTiger72
quote:
Ever heard of the air raid offense? He literally changed the game
So does Hal Mumme get in too?
Posted on 5/29/25 at 2:42 pm to JimTiger72
quote:
ISWYDT
Glad somebody did
Posted on 5/29/25 at 2:49 pm to AkronTiger
I liked Coach Miles.
Was it time for him to go? Absolutely
But win or lose, those games were never dull.
Was it time for him to go? Absolutely
But win or lose, those games were never dull.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 2:56 pm to BordyLSU
quote:I want those victories back. Considering everything and the crap that we deal with today it makes sense. Hell, Reggie got his Heisman back.
Shouldn’t they vacate Miles’ losses too?
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