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Coach's View on JJ not playing..
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:21 pm
J. Jefferson is not seeing significant playing time simply because he does not know the playbook. Crowton's offense is one of the most complicated in the nation; therefore making it impossible for a true freshman to take the field and lead a drive. If JJ does lead a drive versus Troy...Look for the offense to be very dumbed down. Sheppard, on the other hand, and I’d be willing to bet any amount of money on this, is already somewhat familiar with our playbook. I'm sure he has a copy of the Wizard's work. Jefferson was not committed to LSU until a few days before the signing day...so he was not learning our offense while still in highschool. If you watch RS high school games, you will def. notice similarities in the offense they are running to our offense...coincidence? I think not...
This post was edited on 11/14/08 at 12:22 pm
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Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:24 pm to Coach Guidry
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:24 pm to Coach Guidry
Wait, you mean a QB has to know the play book before you put him into the game?
I though you just needed a good recruit and he would just figure it out on his own.
I though you just needed a good recruit and he would just figure it out on his own.
This post was edited on 11/14/08 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:25 pm to TheAntiGump
You would think so wouldn't you...thats my point..very few people understand this. 
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:29 pm to Coach Guidry
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J. Jefferson is not seeing significant playing time simply because he does not know the playbook.
Then they should not have burned his shirt for four meaningless plays against Tulane. If he wasn't ready, he wasn't ready. He is now exactly not as ready to step in if Lee gets hurt as he was BEFORE his shirt came off...except now if he doesn't play a dwn the rest of the season he goes into '09 as a sophmore instead of a RS freshman.
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:31 pm to Coach Guidry
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If JJ does lead a drive versus Troy...Look for the offense to be very dumbed down.
I agree. If the opportunity presents itself while we're comfortably ahead, let him run more plays. I have no qualms with JJ not seeing significant time. I just want him to see some time that's not strictly to handoff.
quote:See Daniel, Chase.
Sheppard, on the other hand, and I’d be willing to bet any amount of money on this, is already somewhat familiar with our playbook.
He may not be in Daniel's league, I'm just referencing what can happen with a kid that knows a style of offense and has run it for a while vs a kid that it's all brand new to.
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:31 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Then they should not have burned his shirt for four meaningless plays against Tulane
True, this is what I do not understand. Only explanation I can come up with is the NCAA only gives a certain amount of time for the team to officaly medical redshirt a player. I think our deadline was coming up, and with Hatch out, we had to burn the shirt if something happend to Lee. Does anyone know the rules to medical redshirt?
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:33 pm to Coach Guidry
Does he need to know the entire play book to spot Lee a couple of plays or a series? No
Also, Les admitted that Jefferson took few snaps other than basic plays and handoffs at practice and little or no 7 on 7. How do you expect him to know the plays if he does not practice them?
If Jefferson can't run 10-15 plays at this point in the season it is the coaches fault. If he does not have the mental capacity to remember 10-15 plays, it is the coaches fault for recruiting a dumb arse.
Also, Les admitted that Jefferson took few snaps other than basic plays and handoffs at practice and little or no 7 on 7. How do you expect him to know the plays if he does not practice them?
If Jefferson can't run 10-15 plays at this point in the season it is the coaches fault. If he does not have the mental capacity to remember 10-15 plays, it is the coaches fault for recruiting a dumb arse.
This post was edited on 11/14/08 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:35 pm to diamondtiger
What is a playbook?
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:38 pm to Fighting Tigers
Since that is the only thing you can respond with, I take it you agree with my points.
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:40 pm to Coach Guidry
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I think our deadline was coming up, and with Hatch out, we had to burn the shirt if something happend to Lee. Does anyone know the rules to medical redshirt?
I may be wrong, but they were claiming before the Hatch injury that Jefferson got hurt on his one play or whatever, and thus he was going to medical redshirt.
Then Hatch got hurt...
Then magically Jefferson sees four plays against Tulane.
Again, it's my understanding that there was no NEED to play him in that game in regards to the NCAA. He was on course to RS and the reason they were going to claim was injury. By putting him in this late, they lose that opportunity.
What I'm saying is that, if the ONLY way the kid was going to see significant PT was if LEE got hurt, than nothing of consequence was accomplished by playing him in the Tulane game. Jefferson STILL has no significant PT, and now has all but lost his freshman year. If they weren't planning on substituting him liberally with Lee in the Tulane and BAMA games, they could have simply let him hold a clip board and ONLY play him if Lee went down. That way he keeps a year in his pocket.
Makes no sense...
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:42 pm to diamondtiger
Well the playbook is already "dumbed down" I mean really, the stuff we are running is not contain all the Crrowton wizardry that he is suposedly known for. So I dont really buy the playbook argument. More on point is that JJ may not be as good as folks think he is. Redshirt issue was a fiasco. No clue...
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:44 pm to Coach Guidry
The injury has to cause you to be out the rest of the season, and the injury has to occur early in the season. Not sure about the % of the season.
Since JJ is able to play now, there is no way he would have gotten a medical redshirt. His redshirt was not burned during the tulane game.
Since JJ is able to play now, there is no way he would have gotten a medical redshirt. His redshirt was not burned during the tulane game.
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:46 pm to mcpotiger
off topic...but coach I think you and I are related.
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:50 pm to diamondtiger
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Also, Les admitted that Jefferson took few snaps other than basic plays and handoffs at practice and little or no 7 on 7. How do you expect him to know the plays if he does not practice them?
That's the point. JJ was 3rd string, few reps. not ready.
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If Jefferson can't run 10-15 plays at this point in the season it is the coaches fault.
I'n sure he can, but what will he do on the play when under pressure or the defense adjusts right before the snap? JJ will play, and he should play. but trust Miles to know how much playing time is proper.
Posted on 11/14/08 at 12:55 pm to LSUswanny
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Since JJ is able to play now, there is no way he would have gotten a medical redshirt. His redshirt was not burned during the tulane game.
Yes, it was. Prior to Hatch's injury, Miles was adamant about Jefferson being redshirted and that he was injured doing his few plays. Those plays happened early enough in the season to still qualify for a MEDICAL redshirt. It's my understanding that the days of playing a few plays early in the season and still deciding to take a non-injury redshirt are over.
But yes, Les said it multiple times that the plan was to RS Jefferson for medical reasons. The fact that he "got better" had nothing to do with his ability to claim that as a reason...since if they never played him they could simply have said he was unable to play. By playing him against Tulane, that card was then delt.
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Posted on 11/14/08 at 1:37 pm to GeauxTigerTM
LSU would not have been able to prove that he was out for medical reasons, therefor the NCAA would not have given a MEDICAL redshirt.
You can't have a minor injury, miss a few games and then take the rest of the year off and claim it was a season ending injury.
You can't have a minor injury, miss a few games and then take the rest of the year off and claim it was a season ending injury.
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