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Coaches evaluate players and their roles not the other way around

Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:29 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53770 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:29 pm
Honestly, if Lance stayed home to contemplate his future at LSU, he has made his bed...he's done

He did what that QB at NCST did which is quit on his teammates for selfish reasons... keep a redshirt and he was quickly told to go play elsewhere...




I hate it, but this is something you can't let into your culture.

The fans are going pull back if this keeps up...the ncaa has allowed more freedom for players than the NFL permits...



This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 7:41 pm
Posted by jlbasm
Aledo, TX
Member since Oct 2010
3434 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:31 pm to
If you let a guy like this dictate terms you’ll lose the whole team. He’s gone
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14146 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:37 pm to
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Honestly, if Lance stayed home to contemplate his future at LSU, he has made his bed...he's done


I agree completely

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I hate it, but this is something you can't let into your culture.


I don’t care how much talent he or anyone else has , because Heards actions are cancerous. I really hope Kelly either straightens this kid out with punishment or shows him the door !
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9485 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:40 pm to
It is a delicate situation honestly. Defacto free agency is a completely different animal.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30139 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:43 pm to
It does happen the other way around all the time. It’s just that you don’t hear the player talk about it or make it known so much

It was an issue before he got here.

I’m on CBK side of this and hate the circumstances about it.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 7:45 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53770 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:44 pm to
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is a delicate situation honestly. Defacto free agency is a completely different animal.


I hope Kelly purges those who try to dictate when they will play and how much they should get paid.

The real world says...well...you're not going to be happy here...good luck!

Understand i want a guy like Lance...but staying back is really a terrible look for all involved.

Glad Kelly was honest about it...
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4565 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:45 pm to
Yes and no. It will all depend d on how the conversation goes. This isn't Coach O, here. It's Brian Kelly. He's quite a bit more professional and business-oriented than O. I expect him to sit down and have a truthful conversation with Heard, just as he did with Jayden Daniel's last year(and others, I'm sure). He will lay out his plan for Heard's future. No fluff. Then he'll let Heard decide if he's on board or not. If it's all about money, then Heard will be gone. I don't see Kelly losing his locker room because one guy wants to dictate the rules.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53770 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:47 pm to
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does happen the other way around all the time. It’s just that you don’t hear the player talk about it or make it known so much


Well its a performance based deal...

The Head coach calls the shots...period!
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30142 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:51 pm to
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Honestly, if Lance stayed home to contemplate his future at LSU, he has made his bed...he's done


Maybe, but you have no idea about that. Nor do you have any influence over the decisions the coaches make.


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He did what that QB at NCST did which is quit on his teammates for selfish reasons... keep a redshirt


Not sure what you're going on about, Heard's redshirt is already burned.

Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53770 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:56 pm to
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Not sure what you're going on about, Heard's redshirt is already burned.


Different situation at state

Both players are telling team coaches...what they're going to do or not do

Posted by Borntoboogy
Member since Jan 2023
342 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:01 pm to
It's probably a combination of his GPA and what the frick ever.
Posted by tigerwith3
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2011
1384 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:06 pm to
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He did what that QB at NCST did which is quit on his teammates for selfish reasons... keep a redshirt and he was quickly told to go play elsewhere...

Didn’t Nuss do the same thing?
Posted by Commander Rabb
Member since Feb 2020
776 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:17 pm to
None of this would be a problem if we still had the one year sit out rule.
Posted by p226
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2016
888 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:20 pm to
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I expect him to sit down and have a truthful conversation with Heard, just as he did with Jayden Daniel's last year


???? How do you know any of this?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53770 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:36 pm to
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Didn’t Nuss do the same thing?


Was bowl game only

NCST guy had 3 games left in the season...was playing great...

Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4565 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:41 pm to
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Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4565 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:43 pm to
Both parties told us what happened. They sat down together and CBK laid out their plan for JD5. It's not a secret. They told.



Posted by ATLSUfan
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2015
1211 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:03 pm to
If he really thought he was gonna unseat Will Campbell , he was never gone stay to begin with
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6924 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:09 pm to
Who the hell was advising this kid? In what world does staying home drive up his value, to LSU or anyone else
Posted by jlbasm
Aledo, TX
Member since Oct 2010
3434 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:15 pm to
The kid is a kid, being offered a bunch of outside offers, deciding between being an adult who owns his future and a kid who continues to be told his dollar figure. Put it to him simple and watch him walk away. Shut the door when he leaves.
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