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re: Coach O Is Crushing It

Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:59 pm to
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There was a posse that was never happy with Miles and no amount of winning would change that.


11 wins in a 13 game season.

That amount of winning would change my opinion

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:01 pm to
Joe was 52nd in YPG.

In any given year around 20 people have years that would break our passing record.

We have 3 seasons where 3000 yards were passed.

Plus Joe took almost every snap all season.
He threw 379/387 passes

If you look at 2007 Flynn three 2400 and RP threw another almost 700

Also RPs stats in 2007 make me want to cry he was so good.

This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 6:08 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298461 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:04 pm to
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11 wins in a 13 game season.


Really. Because we were like a couple of seconds from that last year and you're terribly unhappy.
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
10024 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:05 pm to
I have to disagree with the wording here.

Crushing it would’ve been 11-2 and 13-1 with a playoff berth. He’s just doing what Les was doing so far, but if he takes the next step, then I would consider it crushing it.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:06 pm to
It’s almost like watching my favorite team lose in the last second of a 7 overtime game makes me unhappy.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:23 pm to
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Because we were like a couple of seconds


Auburn 2016 says hello.

It doesn't matter if its couple of seconds, five seconds, or a minute, there is a price to pay when you lose



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:30 pm to
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there is a price to pay when you lose


True.

But the PI call on Greedy was bullshite. Should have gone to 8 OT
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:35 pm to
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Really. Because we were like a couple of seconds from that last year and you're terribly unhappy.




Yeah well Miles was a couple of seconds away from not being fired. Quit crying.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:46 pm to
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Also I’ve just decided he’s an RPO savant. I havent Really seen anything to suggest that besides that he worked at Penn State


More than just "worked at Penn State". He worked under Joe Moorhead who was one of the architects of the RPO. And at The Saints, Brady was assigned the task of working Taysom Hill into an RPO package.

Sure, the proof will be on the field in '19, but I don't think anyone doubts Brady's substantial knowledge of the RPO offense
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 6:47 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79401 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:50 pm to
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And at The Saints, Brady was assigned the task of working Taysom Hill into an RPO package.


Taysom Hill threw like 8 passes all uear
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 7:13 pm to
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Taysom Hill threw like 8 passes all uear


More likely 5000+ passes in organized practices. At least another 5K in the off-season.

Just because it's not on your big-screen TV doesn't mean it's not happening on the practice field.

Brees is 40 years old. Bridgewater is injury prone. You can bet the farm that Payton had Hill game-ready.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 7:16 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298461 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 7:14 pm to
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quote:
Really. Because we were like a couple of seconds from that last year and you're terribly unhappy.



Yeah well Miles was a couple of seconds away from not being fired. Quit crying.


100% on clock management, or lack of it
Posted by SEC Grapevine
SEC
Member since Sep 2014
502 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 7:53 pm to


Buckeye, What makes this ALA play an RPO vs a quick middle screen like Brady to Gronk or a read option or play action? What are differences?

Disclaimer: I post occasionally because I am an alumnus and want to see the AD/HC/OC succeed..make the changes to compete. That is not Ohate, or negativism, so don't demonize it, is is challenging a PR machine that is too stubborn to change, insular, and good ole boy-based. The absence of a Coaching search did not produce the first Offensive Coach or any new blood. O took his dream job because Alleva offered. Who can blame O? AD did it at Duke too.

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Buckeye Jeaux: Joe Moorhead who was one of the architects of the RPO??
link

This sounds suspect. You often contradict yourself and morph your opinion to what you read the day before and turn it into some PR style statement that this or that is going to happen, apparently to stem critical evaluation of how we compete and score vs ALA, Clem, A&M, Mullen, TX and Malzahn whose RPOs made Saban change. Add in every tempo high-scoring offense and every team to make it to the playoffs and LSU has to go from the bottom Offensively to the top. Snap! And that is going to happen via a "feeling the heat directive coming down from above"? I am incredulous.



Moorehead was not an architect but he did adopt them at Penn State & MSST. Almost every modern Offense with Personnel and Coaching Scheme utilizes them. But it is still limited in the NFL compared FBS. And you cannot just say in regards to implementing RPOs that they are a menu item on some CBTN 'Pick a Scheme..Oh and have a few RPOs on the side". It is a fundamental Offensive makeover.

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And would Orgeron do it if he wasn't feeling heat from above? I doubt it. But he is feeling it - it looks like a done deal, IMO.


Saints use of RPOs??? Link Maybe, but Brady and Brees are the last of the Pro-Style QBs and the Pats are at the bottom of the NFL with regards to RPOs. RPOs expose the QB to more sacks and LSU already has that problem.

Do you know what an RPO is? If so explain it to me please, what it takes to implement, the difference in the Pro and FBS RPO, which teams utilize it, how much, etc.

Please provide the links and the explanation. OTW I think you are talking BS like Haskins and Burrow, Meyer and Day, Gene Smith, etc.

Also please provide the often requested info about why Burrow is better than Haskins.

Answer any one win a prize, answer all win the CFP.

Posted by Prix560
Member since Jan 2008
1019 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 7:59 pm to
Saban also lost to UAB
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:25 pm to
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I expect the guy making the claim to look it up


I know you're gonna come up with some kind of excuse for this, but just a few weeks ago, Rickdaddy posted something to you about LSU having a problem systematically that makes our more talented players get manhandled by opponents with less talented players.

And your response was "Nah, over the hill S&C coach.

Now I already know you're gonna say you didn't mean it this way, but not putting any blame on o and his offensive coaches, you're putting o "beyond reproach."
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:27 pm to
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Saints use of RPOs??? Link Maybe
You're not aware that Payton assigned Joe Brady to develop an RPO package for Taysom Hill? If you're going to pretend to be knowledgeable about Joe Brady and his RPO bona fides then you are WAY behind on your homework.

You're sounding more and more like an alter for a sad little stalker of mine. LOL

BYW, Moorhead is mentioned in many articles that discuss the recent success of the RPO in the NFL and college game.

For instance:
quote:

[Mike] Kuchar [runs football-research company X&O Labs] thinks the RPO originated at Purdue during the Joe Tiller–Drew Brees era... ...Kuchar also mentioned Penn State offensive coordinator Joe Moorhead as someone designing the best RPOs in the NCAA.
LINK
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 8:36 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298461 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:30 pm to
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but not putting any blame on o and his offensive coaches, you're putting o "beyond reproach."


Blaming a coach that's on the staff is blaming the head coach Whether it's talent, conditioning, execution, depth... every bit of that is the HC responsibility.

No one can s above reproach.

That's all we want, right? To blame.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:33 pm to
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you are making shite up.


What are you trying to insinuate with this post?

boxcar willie
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kenner
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re: Former LSU players had high praise for Coach Orgeron and his staffPosted on 1/25/19 at 4:55 am to Madking
Well it was an improvement over miles final 4 seasons, 2012. 2013, 2014, and 2015 as we never even broke into the top 10 in any of those seasons. In fact the team only had one top 5 finish since 2007. So i saw a great deal of improvement for the team in 2018, finishing ranked #6, over where we had been in a very long time

You're not trying to make o into some kind of saviour in this post?

And if we want to talk about people making shite up, you did a hell of a job "making shite up" in that post.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:37 pm to
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Blaming a coach that's on staff is blaming the head coach


Then I don't understand why a person wouldn't include the head coach in the post. Instead of just calling out the S&C coach.

Because I see it the same way you've laid it out in your post. But I can fricking guarantee you that not everyone on here sees it that way.

And don't ask me for a link 'cause I'm not gonna supply you with one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298461 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:39 pm to
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Then I don't understand why a person wouldn't include the head coach in the post.


Because it makes more sense to list specific problems than to say "cause: head coach"

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