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re: Coach O Is Crushing It
Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:49 pm to bencoleman
Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:49 pm to bencoleman
It was when he was hired. I don't believe it's been said anytime recently at all. At the time of the hire the Ole Miss record was extremely relevant but as you pointed out it's completely irrelevant now. He's shown he belongs as the P5 level.
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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O was fairly successful at SC.
Well sure, if you're going to count a partial season in an interim role as a running a successful program.
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Regardless of the tales you get from Ricky, he's never coached any "program"
I'm pretty sure that was the point.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:54 pm to TigerLunatik
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someone seems to say something that triggers a few people and we are back.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:56 pm to TigerLunatik
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if you're going to count a partial season in an interim role as a running a successful program.
Im not sure how you could view it any other way. He was head coach and successfully turned the season.
But we both know it will simply be viewed thru lenses one chooses to view. That's the only way things are done around here.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
How many of the assistants did he hire on that staff?
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There are those that never accepted Miles. There are those that will never accept Orgeron.
There's literally nothing that can be done or said to change their minds, we saw that with Miles. People would rather be right than anything else.
I dunno about that brother. How about he wins a championship and then we'll talk? You don't think that's fair? A championship almost certainly would do the trick.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:01 pm to TigerLunatik
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How many of the assistants did he hire on that staff?
This is a high mark in roving goalposts...
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Im not sure how you could view it any other way. He was head coach and successfully turned the season.
But we both know it will simply be viewed thru lenses one chooses to view. That's the only way things are done around here.
It's hard to evaluate the success of an interim coach. Kind of like a substitute teacher.
I will say this. He seemed to coach looser when he was interim without the pressure of being actual HC.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
How is that? I'm asking you that because I believe that running a successful program involves having to fill out a staff. Something that you have said he needs to up his game on. Being an interim doesn't prove that you can do that.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:02 pm to Goldrush25
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How about he wins a championship and then we'll talk?
You and I both know your way too invested in your narrative to back out at any time. You've got two years of hard work in this.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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O was fairly successful at SC.
He had a good win against a 5th ranked Stanford team that finished the year #11. The only two other ranked teams he faced he lost to with one being a blow out.
Then he skipped town before the bowl game.
So I suppose if you think going 1-2 against ranked teams, beating a 8-5 Arizona team, a 7-6 Oregon State team and 3 teams with records of 5-7, 4-8 and 1-11 is "fairly successful", that's your right to do so.
This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:05 pm to earl keese
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He had a good win against a 5th ranked Stanford team that finished the year #11
Earl you're meticulous in your detail to scar the name of Ed Orgeron
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:07 pm to TigerLunatik
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How is that? I'm asking you that because I believe that running a successful program involves having to fill out a staff
I would definitely call that nitpicking to find a way of opting out. Running a program can be a month or 20 years. Aguy only can do with what he's been given
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:08 pm to Fat Bastard
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Fat Bastard
Temper your excitement there Fat Bastard. I don't know if he's been banned. I just wouldn't be surprised if that's why he/she hasn't posted for a few days.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:08 pm to earl keese
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fairly successful", that's your right to do so.
Have you read this, in this thread, Earl?
"It's all about the wins and losses"
It sounds vaguely familiar
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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would definitely call that nitpicking to find a way of opting out.
Not even a little bit. There is a lot more to building a program than there is to just take over someone else's staff.
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Aguy only can do with what he's been given
Again, this was the point to begin with. He hadn't done it to that point.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:12 pm to TigerLunatik
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There is a lot more to building a program
We aren't discussing building a program. The wording was "running a program"
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Earl you're meticulous in your detail to scar the name of Ed Orgeron
Thanks Roger.
I know you don't believe it, but that's not my intent.
I'm simply pointing out facts of what he did as head coach as USC, and what my opinion of it is.
Kinda like how some on here will look at that record and results and go on and on about how he brought USC back from the brink of disaster.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:14 pm to earl keese
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I'm simply pointing out facts of what he did as head coach as USC
Well the facts are he was relatively successful handling that program for a time, wouldn't you agree?
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:14 pm to TigerLunatik
Over/under on number of pages for conversation on O's tenure as interim at USC? I say 4.
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