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re: Coach Mainieri's comments after the game
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:16 pm to moneyg
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:16 pm to moneyg
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.and there it is. There are several simple thinkers in this thread who can't get past the results when considering whether a decision was reasonable or not.
No, my friend. I only assumed the "simple" position after reasonable dialogue failed to hit its mark.
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:16 pm to moneyg
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it's hard to take the bat out of the hands of your best hitter when he's got a 2-0 fastball coming to him.
Rhymes was up....he isn't our best hitter.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:16 pm to RATeamWannabe
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He was still playing for the tie, playing for the win as well. This had nothing to do with your "home run wins its" because the call had nothing to do with Raph hitting the ball out the park.
I didn't say anything about home runs. It was simply the wrong call. That was not the spot be aggressive. Bunting is playing for the tie. The hit and run 7 times out of ten probably gets the runner to second at least. Having runners in the corners is way to much of a log shot to make that gamble. Don't get me wrong, if it would have worked I would have been happy with RR for pulling it Off but I still would have thought it was the wrong call. I'm sorry. In that situation the call is always the sac bunt.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:16 pm to Jay Quest
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but at this point even he knows it wasn't the right call to make.
Yep, they conveniently chopped up his post game quotes.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:16 pm to Jay Quest
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I understand CPM explanation
Yeah and virtually everything I have said in this thread is in line with what he said, including the count leading to the decision to hit and run in that spot.
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but at this point even he knows it wasn't the right call to make.
Ahhh, so you are in PM's head. and know what he is thikning. I guess that's the basis for your entire argument. Well played.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He does. Which is why he said he gambled. These people are arguing against coach PM
He can be wrong too. He admitted he gambled when percentages called for the bunt. There is a reason RR is a 15th rd draft pick despite his batting average, it's lack of MLB speed and power for a slow runner.Raph tried to pull an outside pitch instead of going to rt side of diamond.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:17 pm to Jay Quest
He is basing it on common baseball logic, and using last nights quotes as an example that yes, count does change your approach. And anyone in here that is 100% "Team Bunt" and even they will tell you 2-0 is different than 1-0, 1-1, ect
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:17 pm to moneyg
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There are several simple thinkers in this thread who can't get past the results when considering whether a decision was reasonable or not.
Coach said it was a gamble, yet you can't take his word for it.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:17 pm to moneyg
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With 6-9 of your lineup staring at you, the odds probably move a little bit more towards not bunting
Couple things you aren't taking into account, though:
1. Moore pinch-hitting for Ross against the submariner.
2. JaCoby's not your typical 8-hole hitter.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Oh, it's possible if executed perfectly. Unfortunately you had a slow runner, a slow jump, and a batter who tried to pull the ball instead of place it.
It looked like the batter just decided to turn on one instead of bunting, that's how poorly it was executed.
You are wrong if you think Rhymes wasn't supposed to drive that ball. You may look at the pitch and suggest that he made a mistake trying to pull that specific pitch, but Rhymes was up there to put a good swing on the ball.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:19 pm to Bernie Moore
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He can be wrong too. He admitted he gambled when percentages called for the bunt. There is a reason RR is a 15th rd draft pick despite his batting average, it's lack of MLB speed and power for a slow runner.Raph tried to pull an outside pitch instead of going to rt side of diamond.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:19 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Yeah and virtually everything I have said in this thread is in line with what he said, including the count leading to the decision to hit and run in that spot.
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PurpleAndGold86
It was a run and hit. RR did not try to hit behind the runner.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:19 pm to moneyg
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but Rhymes was up there to put a good swing on the ball.
And he hit it hard. Unfortunately, it went right to their drawn in third baseman.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:19 pm to MOT
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I don't think anyone is saying it was the "right" or the only call, but just defending the logic....which isn't far fetched at all even though some are making it out to be.
I think it is a major blunder. I'm not calling for Paul's head but this was not a sound baseball move. In fact it was egregiously unsound.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:22 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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it went right to their drawn in third baseman.
the only IF other than 1st base that is guaranteed to not be moving on a hit and run
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:22 pm to moneyg
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You are wrong if you think Rhymes wasn't supposed to drive that ball. You may look at the pitch and suggest that he made a mistake trying to pull that specific pitch, but Rhymes was up there to put a good swing on the ball.
Yes, he made a mistake trying to pull that ball.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Coach said it was a gamble, yet you can't take his word for it.
You are being dishonest with yourself if you think one decision has a significantly greater chance of success than the other.
Any 50/50 call is gambling. He was gambling either way. He chose to "gamble" via the hit and run with Rhymes than relying on Ibarra and PH.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:23 pm to moneyg
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You are being dishonest with yourself if you think one decision has a significantly greater chance of success than the other.
Any 50/50 call is gambling. He was gambling either way. He chose to "gamble" via the hit and run with Rhymes than relying on Ibarra and PH.
I've seen you post before, you're smarter than that.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:24 pm to Topwater Trout
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the only IF other than 1st base that is guaranteed to not be moving on a hit and run
Not sure what your point is.
It wasn't good execution on the part of Rhymes.
Their defense made a good play to complete that double play, as it was not an easy turn by their second baseman.
That doesn't make it a bad decision to hit and run.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:24 pm to Godfather1
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Couple things you aren't taking into account, though:
1. Moore pinch-hitting for Ross against the submariner.
I said that in one of my other posts. I certainly took that into account and I'm 100% sure Mainieri knew ahead of time what he would have done.
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2. JaCoby's not your typical 8-hole hitter.
We would have needed another baserunner to get to Jacoby.
...and I'm not saying it was CLEARLY the right decision. I'm saying it was CLEARLY a reasonable decision.
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