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re: Coach Mainieri's comments after the game

Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:26 pm to
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but nooooooooo him hitting into that dp was an anomaly


a few weeks ago I was joking that i am surprised other teams don't just turn 2 for practice when he is hitting
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:27 pm to
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After watching LSU attempt bunts the past few years, it has to be harder than it looks b/c we suck at it


In HS, our coach used to give us this little pipe about 1" in diameter. If you missed laying down the bunt where he called it, you ran a lap.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:27 pm to
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a few weeks ago I was joking that i am surprised other teams don't just turn 2 for practice when he is hitting

Lord knows I tried not to laugh at that but I couldn't hold back.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69562 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:29 pm to
its true though...when he hits ground balls the last month or so they are perfect 2 hoppers right at an if
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45806 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:30 pm to
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You omitted the most important factor - who is batting


The guy who led the SEC in DP's. Bunting is part of baseball. Everyone on the team should know how to do it.

The fact that he had the bunt on for the first 2 pitches shits on the theory that Raph should never have to bunt because "he's never had to do it before". Why even show bunt then?
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 2:46 pm
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17571 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:36 pm to
I think PM thought this could go extra innings and the fact to substitute another player who could bunt was out of the question, like also getting a pinch runner. We didn't need a big inning, we needed a runner in scoring position. RR wasn't looking to move the runner, he was looking to be the hero. If you put a play on you better damn well try to execute, not take it on yourself to be the hero. You bunt, when the runner sees it hit the ground you take off. Not saying he would make it but at least your out of the dbl. play. And like someone else stated, you don't gamble in the bottom of the ninth when you need a run to tie. This isn't the first time PM has made this type of mistake.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10688 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:37 pm to
I'm flabbergasted reading some of these comments. When you're in the bottom of the ninth inning and you're down by a run with the tying run on first you bunt him to second.

All this crap about the count being a difference maker is pure horse poop.

You bunt the tying run to second. That's baseball.
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:37 pm to
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I'm with you...but at least his explanation makes sense. He did try to "Hit and Run" which it did not look like on TV.
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Usually hit and run is behind the runner.


Correct, Katz did not break on the pitch and Raph tried to pull a low outside pitch(ball 3) rather than hit the ball to right field.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:40 pm to
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That's just baseball.


Thanks Smoke Laval
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296763 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:45 pm to
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Sure, I bet he's practiced 3 pointers in practice, but would you play to his weakness or inexperience in a clutch, pressure-packed moment?


I'm not bashing coach PM. I think he made the wrong call and gambled, but it's baseball and sometimes things work, sometimes they don't. He just bucked convention and unfortunately tried an ill conceived and badly executed "hit and run."

Losing a game which could have been easily won with the runner moved to second stings a bit. This team has a chance for redemption tomorrow, and I have faigh.
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:46 pm to
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I'm flabbergasted reading some of these comments. When you're in the bottom of the ninth inning and you're down by a run with the tying run on first you bunt him to second. All this crap about the count being a difference maker is pure horse poop. You bunt the tying run to second. That's baseball.


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Jay Quest


Correct, you play to win on the road and tie at home. If this is Les Miles, the board is crucifying him. PM screwed up and he admitted it.
Tigers will have to get consistent pitching from the rest of the staff something they have not had all year, to advance to championship bracket. They will also need hits with rsp something missing all year. Time for some Omaha magic!
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:46 pm to
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Losing a game which could have been easily won with the runner moved to second stings a bit.


So we would have won if the run scored and the game tied?
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10688 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:50 pm to
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Time for some Omaha magic!

Here here
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296763 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:50 pm to
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So we would have won if the run scored and the game tied?




For real?? Is this a serious question? I don't know if some people are seriously impaired or just sarcastic anymore. Tying the game would have put LSU in a much much better situation to win than walking off the field a loser following the 9th.

This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 2:52 pm
Posted by BRAVEHEART
Member since Aug 2012
1525 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:51 pm to
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I'm cool with a gamble. If we're playing in the SEC Tournament. Or Game 3 of a SEC series we've already one. Or a midweek game vs the University of Northeastern Southwest Louisiana at Houma. Not god damn game 1 of the CWS
I'm with you on this one.

Doesn't matter what our wonderful record is or what we did during the regular season, SEC's, R's or SR's. CWS is crunch time and it's "Shite or get off the Pot."

Botton Line, it shouldn't even come down to a calculated risk gamble like this. We can't hit great pitching in the CWS. We all know what needs to be done. Alan Dunn has worked wonders for the pitching staff. I "Wonder" what a really top notch hitting coach would do for this program. Would be the missing piece to the puzzle.
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Oh BTW, concerning the University of NWSWLa@H, I'm sure Joe and Verge ( ) are hard at work trying to book them for a game in Tiger Stadium. The big games worth watching are apparently not for all the lowly "Local Yokals", but are reserved for the "Special$$$$$$$People" that will travel to Dallas, Houston or Atlanta. It's insulting to local LSU fans, Alumni and especially the Baton Rouge business community that he does this in lieu of trying to book the Home and Home with a Top 10/20 opponent.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:56 pm to
Runners on first and second would have gone a long way in assuring that end as well.
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:58 pm to
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RATeamWannabe
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So we would have won if the run scored and the game tied?


No, but we would have the pressure on UCLA with another at bat guaranteed.
BTW, Javy has done a good job wih Laird, Jones and the young hitters on the team.

How does a geek like you know Javy needs fired. How about giving us your baseball credentials other than being an internet geek!
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15991 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:59 pm to
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I think PM thought this could go extra innings and the fact to substitute another player who could bunt was out of the question, like also getting a pinch runner. We didn't need a big inning, we needed a runner in scoring position. RR wasn't looking to move the runner, he was looking to be the hero. If you put a play on you better damn well try to execute, not take it on yourself to be the hero. You bunt, when the runner sees it hit the ground you take off. Not saying he would make it but at least your out of the dbl. play. And like someone else stated, you don't gamble in the bottom of the ninth when you need a run to tie. This isn't the first time PM has made this type of mistake.


Will everyone quit saying GAMBLE. I know that's the word he used in his press conference, but he really wasnt gambling all that much. He trusted one of his better hitters to hit a ground ball to the right side in a 2-0 count. If you cant depend on your 2-0 hitter to hit a ground ball to the right side, how the hell can you expect him to bunt?
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7453 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:59 pm to
Hit and run isnt a bad call right there. If Rhymes pokes it threw the hole its first and third and people say PM is a genius. You're down a run in the CWS against a top line closer.. Take a shot.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:59 pm to
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Bernie Moore


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