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re: CLM and the Elusive 2nd NC

Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:12 pm to
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Drugs can do terrible things to your mind.


He hasn't? What do you bring to this discussion other than attacking me?

Please explain how a team doesn't need luck to win a title? Lsu needed it all 3 times they went. Bama needed it all 3 times they went.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:12 pm to
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We had to win the sec to go. Bama didn't. Its pretty fricking simple. We deserved to be in that game, they didn't. Let's lose to bama every year and see if we get voted in


See to me this isn't a viable argument....did we get cornholed by the NCAA???...absolutely...those douche nozzles should have never sniffed the field on 1/9...but you play the hand you're dealt and come out breathing fire at game time.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86211 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:17 pm to
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and probably all 120 other programs would have moved the ball past the fifty yard line at least once before the 4th quarter.


What does that have to do with playing in that game? There is always a loser. If not us bama would gave beat someone else. So I guess bamas loss to lsu was equally embarrassing. They list to Jordan fricking Jefferson. The rants proclaimed worst qb in lsu history. Saban got out coached by a functional retard.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55427 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:17 pm to
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Don't have a problem with LSU losing, I have a problem with Les Miles and his representation of the university.


What has Les Miles done to shame LSU?

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Nick Saban is the greatest college football coach. Period.


Nah. Not the GOAT. Not yet. Is he on his way? Sure.

The GOAT wouldn't need the advantages Saban HAS to have at Bama in order to win titles. Not many coaches in major conferences, outside of maybe Texas and the Big 12, have the officiating, scheduling, and media backing Saban has.

If Saban was the GOAT, he would have done more at LSU.

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My respect for a great football coach, has nothing to do with my despising of a functional retard who stumbled into a fortunate situation.


Oh. Wow. Miles is a "functional retard". Never mind.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86211 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:19 pm to
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See to me this isn't a viable argument.


I'm saying les did what he had to to get to that game. We beat a more talented bama team with lsus worst qb and a fictional retard as our coach.


But people want to throw out what we had to do to get there. Don't beat bama, don't win the sec, don't play for a title.
This post was edited on 11/1/13 at 3:21 pm
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55427 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:19 pm to
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Now who's fking whining???? GTFO here with this shite. It is what it is with Bama....it aint right but there aint jack any of us can do about and continually pointing it out makes us look as bad as "negas" whining about Miles. Fixing either of these situations isn't tenable.


LOL. Nah, not whining.

I know what I'm watching when I turn on CFB on Saturdays.

That's why I get so amused by those who bash Miles when he's done things at LSU no coach has ever done.

How many other coaches could win consistent NCs under LSU's standard?

Saban couldn't/didn't, and he's the GOAT, supposedly.
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4289 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:22 pm to
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Actually you despise our coach cus saban coached at LSU. If he didn't, you wouldn't have these feelings.


Sure that is it, doesn't have to do with the weekly embarrassing press conferences and interviews. It doesn't have to do that the man doesn't understand how to operate a clock. It doesn't have to do with him making even someone like Ed Orgeron look smart.

"I felt differently than the nail, so you know.”

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Such a stand up guy he is.



Yeah, what an a-hole for taking what he thought was his dream job for a lot of money. Saban is an a-hole, but is paid to win crystal, and he does it. For all the talk I hear that Les Miles is a great person, apparently we pay him to give to hugs to Kathy and Smacker
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55427 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:24 pm to
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For all the talk I hear that Les Miles is a great person, apparently we pay him to give to hugs to Kathy and Smacker


Oh. I see.

Les Miles fricked your wife and didn't pay you for it.

I'd hate him too if I were you.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86211 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:26 pm to
If they recalculated the standings after the title game, which they don't. Id bet a lot of money wed stay #1 even after losing.
Posted by jondavid11
benton,la
Member since Aug 2007
1168 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:26 pm to
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If he had won 1/9....arguably the greatest season in CFB history (wins over Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl champs, a #1 vs #2, a #1 vs #3 win) yeah he would've had a pass.


Still great. He did all that AND beat the National Champion AND won SEC title.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86211 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:30 pm to
I like his rants. And saban won how many crystals at LSU? He was getting paid to coach lsu. He didn't in 2004. Its pretty simple. We signed 13 guys in 2005. 5 committed after Les was coach. So why were we paying saban in 2004 again? I dint blame him for leaving. I blame him for not doing his fricking job while still under contract.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:30 pm to
I give him a pass for winning the SEC just 2 years ago. He is a good coach. He will never be Saban but nobody in college football is either. We lost a great one when he left. LSU would have 4 or 5 titles since 2000 with Saban.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55427 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:31 pm to
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If they recalculated the standings after the title game, which they don't. Id bet a lot of money wed stay #1 even after losing.


You can find it online somewhere. They do/did and it wasn't even close.

Remember, 2011 was much like 2012 and 2013 in terms of Bama playing no one during the 12 game regular season that is supposed to have meaning.

In 2011, Bama accomplished an amazing feat: they beat THREE FBS teams that were better than 6-6, one of those three teams was 7-5. Couple that with finishing third in the SEC, it was easy to see why they deserved a rematch.

All the while, the Moron Les Miles was going through one of the toughest schedules in the history of the sport with THREE TOP TEN teams being defeated ON THE ROAD.

Yup, LSU beat more top 10 teams in their backyard in 2011 than Bama beat who were above 6-6.

That, folks, is why Saban is the GOAT! Only he could do something that amazing.

Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55427 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:33 pm to
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LSU would have 4 or 5 titles since 2000 with Saban.


No. We wouldn't.

We may have three, but certainly not 4 or 5. No way.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:33 pm to
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That's why I get so amused by those who bash Miles when he's done things at LSU no coach has ever done.


I'm grateful for what CLM has done at LSU...nobody appreciates 2007 NC more than me....and CLM has won some awesome games for us along the way with his gambling style. I truly believe he really shot his wad early in his career though with some of those big victories and ballsy calls. Now people expect him do to it all the time and when he doesn't..the fans go schizo.

My main concern is the direction the program is headed NOW? Cam was a good start....but (remaining 4 games aside) what if we have a truly schitty year next season. you think its full retard around here now...hide and watch what happens!
And no...I'm not of those "negas" that wants that to happen to say "I told ya so!" I want to win EVERY freeking game we play! I don't believe in making points by losing games.
My only real beef with the LSU Admin is signing a long-term deal with CLM that leaves us little or no wiggle room if a change has to be made.

This post was edited on 11/1/13 at 3:36 pm
Posted by LSUnowhas2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
21981 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:35 pm to
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What does that have to do with playing in that game? There is always a loser. If not us bama would gave beat someone else. So I guess bamas loss to lsu was equally embarrassing. They list to Jordan fricking Jefferson. The rants proclaimed worst qb in lsu history. Saban got out coached by a functional retard.


I would definitely agree with you that losing to Jordan Jefferson when he had a total of 67 yards passing and 43 yards rushing in the 9-6 win over BAMA was pretty damn embarrassing. However, Jefferson surpassed his dismal performance in the first game with 53 yards passing and 15 yards rushing on 1/9. If BAMA's kicker doesn't shite the bed in the first game (three missed FG and one blocked FG) LSU loses that one too.

I wouldn't have even been that upset about losing on 1/9 if we at least looked like we were ready to play and were even the slightest bit competitive after having a solid month to prepare for the NC game. But we weren't competitive and definitely weren't prepared. And then Miles did nothing to adjust his game plan when it obviously wasn't working.

I am just laughing at the people that still blindly defend Miles.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:37 pm to
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If he had won on 1/9....would most folks give him a pass for infrequent clock blunders and questionable game planning?



you mean would people respect him more if we didn't completely shite the bed in one of the biggest games in LSU history?

We sit Jeremy Hill, arguably the best RB in the country, because of 1 fumble in 250+ carries; yet, we refused to take JJ out for a series or two against UGA or Bama when he couldn't gain a yard and turned the ball over himself
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4289 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:38 pm to
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He was getting paid to coach lsu. He didn't in 2004. Its pretty simple. We signed 13 guys in 2005. 5 committed after Les was coach. So why were we paying saban in 2004 again? I dint blame him for leaving. I blame him for not doing his fricking job while still under contract.


I will give you that, he mailed it in during December(which i believe is a not contact period anyway). But to throw some facts into this, LSU had very few scholarship available that season, without "processing" many players that were previously given scholarships.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:39 pm to
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I wouldn't have even been that upset about losing on 1/9 if we at least looked like we were ready to play and were even the slightest bit competitive after having a solid month to prepare for the NC game. But we weren't competitive and definitely weren't prepared. And then Miles did nothing to adjust his game plan when it obviously wasn't working.


This is the crux......a lot of folks simply cannot get past this colossal goat fuk.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:41 pm to
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He didn't in 2004. Its pretty simple. We signed 13 guys in 2005.


We only had 13 scholarships to give in 2004

LINK

Solid class though. Beckwith, Ciron Black, Chris Hawkins, Lyle Hitt, Trindon, RJ Jackson, Ricky Jean-Francois, Al Jones, Brandon LaFell, and RP.

Talk about good talent evaluation
This post was edited on 11/1/13 at 3:44 pm
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