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re: Check in if you still think Daniels can’t throw?

Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by Patinataz
Bossier City
Member since Jul 2019
63 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:00 pm to
I’m in Daniel’s corner , I like the kid. He is not a bad QB and he plays hard but the truth is what it is and the truth is he is frustrating to watch. He holds the ball too long and leaves a lot of yards and plays to be had. That’s the bad truth but the good truth is he doesn’t turn the ball over and makes up for bad Oline play and will get yards that Nuss couldn’t . He’s not going to lose us games but he isn’t going to throw us to victory in games that he can’t win is with his legs. He is what he is at this point in his career . He’s not going to change so don’t expect him to. If this Oline was solid, in my opinion, he wouldn’t have the job but we need what he brings right now so fans need to accept the good and the bad and get behind him . Anyway ,that’s just how I see it.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36798 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:03 pm to
He's got to create more air under his throws
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:04 pm to
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his passing performance thus far ain't gonna cut it against the majority of the teams left on the schedule


Who are the better defenses than State and FSU the rest of the way for LSU besides Bama?

I’ll wait.
Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:05 pm to
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If this Oline was solid


O line has played great, especially in pass protection, since they shuffled the O line in week 2.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47829 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:11 pm to
Tennessee
Florida
Ole Miss
Arkansas
ATM
Posted by CommieHater
Member since Oct 2021
1005 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:18 pm to
You know the truth but keep "defending" your stupidity no matter what the evidence shows.

Daniels is a good quarterback. He has, for the most part, managed the team fairly well.

HE STILL DOES NOT FOLLOW THROUGH ON HIS PROGRESSIONS.

He is still so afraid to throw another interception (something for which he acquired a bit of a reputation ) that he just refuses to throw to WIDE OPEN RECEIVERS.

Jayden Daniels is still the "run first" quarterback from the week one loss to FSU. He will experience a severe injury as this team begins SEC play.

On the other hand, Nussmier showed a lot of improvement from last week.

You are like libtards, you are "never wrong" and neither are all the others of your ilk...

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47829 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:27 pm to
If you go back and watch his progression at ASU it’s easy to see why the turnover ratio went south. He started out playing a lot like he does now, a lot of horizontal completions under 10 yards with the occasional shot. His 3rd year he tried to start forcing balls into zone coverages up the field and that’s when the ints came. What Denbrock did Saturday was very smart, he went with a lot of 2TE looks on early downs, attaching Bech to the line as a WB/HB on the weak side. That forced NM into more man coverage so when we threw it the middle of the field was cleared out and Daniels was confident and effective there. That’s how you protect his weaker tendencies and it’s coming along, Denbrock is figuring out how to use his QB.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
2673 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:28 pm to
I never thought he couldn’t throw. I thought and still do that he will likely have trouble reading the coverage or understanding the protections to pick up the defensive front. This would lead to holding on to the ball too long and running when he has “wide open receivers”. That unfortunately is the case. If he keeps running the ball he will be on crutches. That doesn’t help anyone.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:31 pm to
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Tennessee Florida Ole Miss Arkansas ATM


None of those teams besides maybe A&M have some great defense.

In yards per game Florida State is ranked higher than all these teams and Ole Miss is the only one that is ranked higher than State.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
20991 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:38 pm to
He can throw but he breaks down and runs eary.
Either shorten the development of the routes or get him to stay in the pocket .
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23059 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:39 pm to
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So he’s a NFL caliber QB? Pretty damn good then.
a FASTER NFL caliber QB and it’s a very good thing.

He throws short safe passes with a high completion rate and doesn’t turn it over plus he’s fast as shite.

To me it’s the perfect comparison.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47829 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:41 pm to
Maybe ATM? Their D is one of the best in the country and far better than FSU. You can argue numbers if you want but we’re 4 games in. Remember Vandy being ranked 11th in D early 2020? How’d that end up for them? The other teams I mentioned have more talent and have played better comp. Tenn held Pitt and Florida to under 4ypc, Florida handled Utah plus those Ds are easily good enough to beat us if we can’t keep up with them offensively.
Posted by KeithN
Texas
Member since Aug 2022
64 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 5:01 pm to
Does the passing game even matter? Daniels was clocked running 22mph
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 5:26 pm to
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Maybe ATM? Their D is one of the best in the country and far better than FSU.


I’m not arguing that they are. And you’re right A&M is a really good defense I shouldn’t have undersold them. My point in this is that people keep saying “when LSU plays better defenses then Daniels will be exposed” and I just don’t see that many better defenses than some of the teams they’ve already played.

I mean one of the teams people mention to be better is Arky which literally has the worst pass defense in the country.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 5:34 pm to
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The gameplan last night was well suited to his strengths. He can throw. He just can’t read a defense. But by getting the ball to our elite receivers quickly, he can be effective.


He doesn’t have to be able to fully read the defense to continue improving. He just needs to be able to find a 1 on 1 matchup and put the ball where his receiver can make a play and start trusting that they will.

I’m not saying this has been completely fixed, but we’ve at least seen glimpses of improvement. The throw to Nabors for a big 3rd down conversion vs State and the 2 slants to Jenkins last night are examples. The receivers weren’t wide open, but Daniels still made the right throw and our WRs are good enough to do the rest. Hopefully he can build on these and start letting it fly a little more.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 5:37 pm to
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Tennessee Florida Ole Miss Arkansas ATM


UT’s defense made UF look like a juggernaut yesterday. They are fricking terrible. And are you serious about Florida? State is hands-down better than either of them.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:26 am to
Of course he sees the field perfectly.

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