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CBK’s track record of QB’s
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:10 pm
CBK has produced lots of talented TE’s and O-linemen, but not many successful QB’s. I’m not sure why everyone thinks CBK is a QB guru, who is the best signal caller that he developed in South Bend? Below is a list of his starting QB’s at Notre Dame:
Ian Book
DeShone Kizer
Malik Zaire
Everett Golson
Tommy Rees
Dwayne Crist
There are several other head coaches that have proven track records of developing high quality QB’s - Lincoln Riley, Saban, Urban Meyer, Dabo, and Chip Kelly are a few of them. Based off of his past QB’s, what makes you believe CBK will chose and develop the best QB at LSU? I think he exceeded expectations in year 1 by winning 10 games, but our downfield passing attack this season was non existent and it’s disappointing that we will have to go through that again next year. How much better could this team have been if we had a true down field passing game?
Ian Book
DeShone Kizer
Malik Zaire
Everett Golson
Tommy Rees
Dwayne Crist
There are several other head coaches that have proven track records of developing high quality QB’s - Lincoln Riley, Saban, Urban Meyer, Dabo, and Chip Kelly are a few of them. Based off of his past QB’s, what makes you believe CBK will chose and develop the best QB at LSU? I think he exceeded expectations in year 1 by winning 10 games, but our downfield passing attack this season was non existent and it’s disappointing that we will have to go through that again next year. How much better could this team have been if we had a true down field passing game?
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:12 pm to MarlboroTiger
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:12 pm to MarlboroTiger
Brandon Wimbush started in 2017 and 2018.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:13 pm to MarlboroTiger
Don’t bring facts to this board. We all about feelings now. Jd had the same amount of tds as max. Let that sink in.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:15 pm to MarlboroTiger
BK has always had shitty DT QBs tbh
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:16 pm to MarlboroTiger
Les Miles without the championships.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:16 pm to MarlboroTiger
Saban develops good QBs? I guess Eddy O is a great QB developer as well?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:18 pm to MarlboroTiger
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proven track records of developing high quality QB’s
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Saban
Bruh
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:19 pm to BigWinnie
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Saban develops good QBs? I guess Eddy O is a great QB developer as well?
There are 3 current NFL starters that came from Saban’s program
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:21 pm to MarlboroTiger
Nice. In that case, glad Kirby developed Justin Fields!
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:21 pm to MarlboroTiger
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CBK has produced lots of talented TE’s and O-linemen, but not many successful QB’s.
BK is a head coach. He isn’t spending huge amounts of hands-on time working with the QBs. It’s Denbrock and Sloan who are doing this job, so this post is pretty pointless.
As for Denbrock, he has his flaws, but he did a damn good job with Desmond Ridder at Cincinatti. He noticeably improved every season in college and was ready to be a capable backup in the NFL as a rookie. He threw for 50% or better with no picks across 4 games for Atlanta, so he certainly doesn’t suck.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:22 pm to MarlboroTiger
Was the most glaring and concerning aspect of the CBK hire for me.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:22 pm to MarlboroTiger
I've never heard much of people identifying him as a " Quarterback Quru" in fact I agree that the list isn't heavily populated with big names. What I do associate and have heard his name identified with is winning. Producing programs that succeed. So in today's game if it takes prolific QB vs..previously RB'S Then I believe that he will find the proper staff and personnel to do what it takes to keep winning more games.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:22 pm to MarlboroTiger
I'm equally cautious about our QB development. Kelly has generally handled the QBs simply as a means to an end - just pick and prod, use the running game, wear teams down, and get out of town with a win. He often used 2 QBs in a season, and in many games. He did all of this against lesser comp than the SEC.
However, he is dealing with alot better talent here, including the surrounding parts. We may not think Daniels is uber talented, and he may not be, but he's a placeholder for now. We all see Nuss' talent, and he did progress from his time before Kelly. I think Daniels' progression to next year will be telling. Kelly and Denbrock have all the time in the world to paint the canvas.
That's all we have for now. This isn't Notre Dame. And, Kelly had one off season with Daniels and Nuss.
Moving forward, I'll be anxious to see his QB talent assessment. If we get uber talented guys in, that's a great start. That may be the end, considering the transfer portal allows you to get guys in that need very little development. A grade on his QB development isn't applicable yet.
However, he is dealing with alot better talent here, including the surrounding parts. We may not think Daniels is uber talented, and he may not be, but he's a placeholder for now. We all see Nuss' talent, and he did progress from his time before Kelly. I think Daniels' progression to next year will be telling. Kelly and Denbrock have all the time in the world to paint the canvas.
That's all we have for now. This isn't Notre Dame. And, Kelly had one off season with Daniels and Nuss.
Moving forward, I'll be anxious to see his QB talent assessment. If we get uber talented guys in, that's a great start. That may be the end, considering the transfer portal allows you to get guys in that need very little development. A grade on his QB development isn't applicable yet.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:23 pm to BigWinnie
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Nice. In that case, glad Kirby developed Justin Fields!
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:23 pm to MarlboroTiger
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There are 3 current NFL starters that came from Saban’s program
Saban is a defensive guy and doesn’t do much with the QBs except get them to campus
Kinda weird to put him on a list with offensive guys like Lincoln Riley, Chip Kelly, etc.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:25 pm to MarlboroTiger
Most of those qbs were decent but he never had a superstar, if he would have had a top tier qb he possibly would have gotten a championship. I think between Daniels and Nuss there is a good possibility to win it all. I even think a two qb system would dominate.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:25 pm to DallasTiger45
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Saban is a defensive guy and doesn’t do much with the QBs except get them to campus
I was pointing out other head coaches that have had high quality QB’s come from their program
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:25 pm to DallasTiger45
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Kinda weird to put him on a list with offensive guys like Lincoln Riley, Chip Kelly, etc.
Not when considering the mouth-breathing idiots around here who live to do nothing but constantly shite on LSU over one thing or another.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:30 pm to misey94
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BK is a head coach. He isn’t spending huge amounts of hands-on time working with the QBs. It’s Denbrock and Sloan who are doing this job, so this post is pretty pointless
I disagree, I think CBK went out and got his guy - JD - and is going to ride with him no matter what. I would imagine Sloan and Denbrock would prefer a QB with better passing abilities than JD if given the choice
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