re: Can we give props to O for delivering on his promise?

I know your biggest knock is his past record but there are a lot of positives that come with O too. His recent record is good we know he's always been an ace recruiter and he has a plan to execute the position. He's going to be a head coach not an Xs and Os guy calling plays he does do a good amount of actual coaching though. But the biggest thing for sustained success that he has going for him is that he has a vast network of relationships in the profession, he knows everybody and that means he'll have a great chance at recognizing up and coming coordinators and he should be able to replenish our staff successfully. That's where I think he can have continued success.

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Why do his positive results carry more weight than his negative results?

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If you are an LSU fan they should. What move has he made the most current decade do you disagree with? Just one will do.

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In both cases I'm looking at the entire body of work, not cherry picking statistics that help to prove whatever point I'm trying to make.

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Well good for you, except you were probably really surprised he lost by a less-talented 18.5 underdog last weekend. I wasn't.

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I don't really know how much talent he had

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Check out 24/7 sports "team rankings".

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Even if we accept your premise that he loses to lesser talented teams, so does every team eventually. Whenever Bama loses they're losing to a lesser talented team. Same goes for Ohio State. Doesn't mean their coaches are bums.

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When their coaches lose to less talented underdog teams 4 times out of 8 times, come talk to me about how great they are.

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I know your biggest knock is his past record but there are a lot of positives that come with O too. 

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I agree. he is a great recruiter. he is one of the best dline coaches in cfb. he is an outstanding motivator. I've never knocked his football knowledge literally not once. I've never called him a dumbass. my gripe was his inexperience and he unknown around his hire. we don't know if he has set philosophy. when our coordinators leave will we have to rearrange what tyoe of players we recruit? what happens when lsu doesnt have the 2 best coordinators in cfb? because we just saw what a great recruiter and great motivator ,with a Flawed philosophy and bad coordinator,got us.

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Well you know you and I share a high opinion of Herman and I'm confident he'll end up being successful at UT. But you gotta know if what happened to him happened to coach O here a lot of guys like yourself would've reacted the same way about O lol.

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I really don't like shitting on the lsu coach during the season. even before the game I was all in on the team. o is our coach and I'm behind him but I won't act like he is the best coach we couldve asked for which is the initial post I responded to in this thread.

And I agree with that mostly although he's had more games as a head coach under his belt than Miles did when we hire him. My biggest concern was his record, it want sub par it was awful at Ole Miss but he'd improved since so there was that. As far as his identity from what I've heard him talk about it's going to be our dline first and most which is good because that's his specialty. Now I know it's just one unit but it's about as important a unit as there is. We looked good last week and I hope it continues but we have to excersize some patients and let it play out. As of now we are ahead of Texas and FSU who have the coaches we thought we wanted.

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Ha Ha Ha, yeah, nobody could tell you weren't biased against the LSU head coach during the offseason. NOBODY !!!!

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I was defending O. get grip on reality.

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I was going to say you needed to quit drinking. Now I think you need to lay off the drugs. If you are a big enough idiot to think anyone will believe this shite you need help.

Defending Eaux. Ha Ha Ha. Dude just look at the last page or two in this very thread and tell me what you have been defending Eaux over?

Idiot !!!

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And I agree with that mostly although he's had more games as a head coach under his belt than Miles did when we hire him

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only if you count interim. at usc he wasn't making long term decisions so I don't really consider that running a program. but I wasnt too excited about miles either. I know Saban left with a month before nsd so skip had to hurry.i really think if Saban had left before the bowl game, miles doesnt get hired.

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As far as his identity from what I've heard him talk about it's going to be our dline first and most which is good because that's his specialty. Now I know it's just one unit but it's about as important a unit as there is. 

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agreed. while he is here our dline should be sick. if my son were playing dline id definitely send him o's way.
as you know a great dline can cover up some weaknesses in the defense.
aside from qb I always like building programs from inside out.if your lines are dominant you lost likely will be a good team.

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We looked good last week and I hope it continues but we have to excersize some patients and let it play out. As of now we are ahead of Texas and FSU who have the coaches we thought we wanted.

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for sure Texas. where did fsu fall? they would probably be favored over us don't you think? not that that's the end all be all.

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pussyface

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never heard this one

surely you know the difference between the two programs making the hire. that matters. if lsu was coming off
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Yet you use the Ole Miss debacle of Coach O to tell us all that Coach O is a shite bag of a coach since his being hired.

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As someone that attempts to approach these results with a logical mindset I view both sets of results in their proper context. Fanhood shouldn't have any bearing on that.

Otherwise it's just confirmation bias, where you look at the results that confirm what you believe and disregard the results that would disprove what you want to believe.

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Well, in your "logical mindset" what moves has coach Eaux made in the most current decade do you logically disagree with? One will do.

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You should go out on a limb and tell us how the rest of the season will play out, given your predictive talents. Really bold of you speaking in hindsight

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I was speaking "in hindsight" the whole offseason, even though it wasn't hindsight at the time. You Rich-Momma and Sporty bringing up last decade is "hindsight". Just look at my post history and tell me where you think I was off in my forward thinking. Any one thing will do.

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He beat the #3 team in the country last year as well.

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And lost to SMU who was a 23 point dog. He gained 303 total yards in the loss to the juggernaut known as SMU.

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Does he get any credit for that?

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Yes he does, and the Oklahoma win. Does he get any blame at all for the SMU, Navy, Memphis and Maryland losses? Rich-Momma wants to only give credit for his first season. He never wants to mention his 2nd year on the job. You ever wonder why?

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I guess that's why I see things a little differently from you. I don't simply isolate whatever results that support what I want to believe.

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So when you isolated the things you wanted to believe did you see him losing to an 18.5 underdog Maryland by 10 points? Did you freak out when he lost to a 23 point underdog SMU by 22 points? Were you ecstatic when he lost to an underdog Navy and Memphis? If you were you need to rethink your logical thinking and what you isolate on a coaches proven "career track".