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re: Can we get some clarification regarding the program?

Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by TigerFan91
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:59 pm to
There are two examples in one of these threads with good coaches taking more than a decade to figure it out (Drew, and Wright)

I think Wade figures it out sooner and he’s learning how to build a complete roster. He got the scorers last year but they didn’t want to defend. He got really outstanding effort guys this year, but no true closer and shot maker. It’ll click at some point and all mesh in the right season.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 6:01 pm
Posted by crowbar832001
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 6:16 pm to
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Proving "what" exactly?


That a sweet sixteen run wasn’t a fluke. Proving he can get over that hump.

Days improved fresh to soph year but I can argue actually regressed this year.

Gaines improved from total shite to half shite. So you got me there. He looks like a good Southern player at this point.

Smart and Watford are you smoking crack? That is my two main examples of Wade not developing players.

You probably aren’t old enough to know who Corliss Williamson, Scotty Thurman, and Clint McDaniel are but son I’m here to tell you there is no comparison.


LSU is top 15 program under Wade? That’s a bold statement Cotton let’s see how that works out for you.


2018-19 is the only season that lsu finished ranked in the top 15 at 15 and 12. This year is the only other year that Wade was ranked that high and obviously they won’t finish that way barring a huge run in tournament.

So do you want to rethink your top 15 program under Wade thoughts?

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 6:24 pm to
Javonte Smart
Freshman year- 11.1ppg, 3.3rpg, 2.4apg, 36% FG, 31% 3s
Sophomore- 12.5ppg, 3.5rpg, 4.2apg, 41%FG, 32% 3s
Junior- 16ppg, 3.7rpg, 4apg, 46% FG, 42% 3s

Trendon Watford
Freshman- 13.6ppg, 7.2rpg, 1.7apg, 48% FG, 26% 3s
Sophomore- 16.3ppg, 7.4rpg, 2.9apg, 48% FG, 32% 3s



Btw Scotty Thurman regressed every season and Corliss Williamson regressed from his sophomore to junior year.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 6:25 pm to
We will likely end up with the 4th best class, behind bama, Arky and Kentucky.
We will probably need to hit the portal for a competent guard. I expect we will lose a couple to the portal. Prob Colbert and maybe eziwiro. Fudge might consider it as well. But, I would expect he’ll get plenty of minutes next year if he sticks around.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13237 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 6:30 pm to
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Just hire whoever won the national championship last year, that'll solve all our problems.




Didn't the Miss St coach win a national championship once?

Do the experts want him?


Posted by kadillak
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 7:14 pm to
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Smart and Watford are you smoking crack? That is my two main examples of Wade not developing players.

Holy smokes
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15255 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 7:18 pm to
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Days improved fresh to soph year but I can argue actually regressed this year


You could, but you'd be an idiot to argue that.

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Gaines improved from total shite to half shite. So you got me there. He looks like a good Southern player at this point.


Some of you people just do not appreciate Eric Gaines at all. He's one of the best defenders in college basketball and has completely changed numerous games. He's averaging almost double digits and people call him "half shite"...you're a fricking idiot

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Smart and Watford are you smoking crack? That is my two main examples of Wade not developing players


Dude... . What is your definition of improving players? It just continues to show how little you know. Watford averaged more points, more rebounds, more assists, better from the outside. He went from 13.6 to 16.3 points...wtf do you want from him?

Smart averaged 11.1ppg, 36.8% FG%, 31.1% 3P%, 2.4apg...by the time the left, he averaged 16.0ppg, 46% FG%, 40.2% 3P%, 4.0apg. So what's that about crack you dumbass?

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You probably aren’t old enough to know who Corliss Williamson, Scotty Thurman, and Clint McDaniel are but son I’m here to tell you there is no comparison.


Ohhhhh, so you're a 60 year old who thinks he knows some things because you've been on earth longer. And yea, not sure why you're bringing up some Arkansas players. Just because I said Nolan Richardson. Your take is so fricking bad it's laughable. You're just an old ignorant dude.

So, I said we have a "similar" style and then you say our players aren't nearly as good as Arkansas's players. Umm...yea, probably not. Hence why we aren't as good. So, add another notch in Wade's book. Dumb frick. My favorite people to argue with are you old people who call others "son" or "boy" and think you know more because you're old. Wade is younger than you and knows a million times more about basketball than you.

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LSU is top 15 program under Wade? That’s a bold statement Cotton let’s see how that works out for you.


Since you wanted an intelligent conversation, I want you to name teams that in the last 3 years have a conference championship, a sweet 16 appearance, have won at least one game in the tournament each year. You go do that

By sheer numbers, there have been a possible 32 teams make the sweet 16 in the last 3 years. Obviously there are significantly less than that (I'm not going to look it up because you're the one saying I'm wrong). Then from that, who else has conference championship? I mean...yea, LSU is a top 15 program last few years

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2018-19 is the only season that lsu finished ranked in the top 15 at 15 and 12. This year is the only other year that Wade was ranked that high and obviously they won’t finish that way barring a huge run in tournament.


Rankings? Dude . Who cares about rankings, I'm talking about physical, actual achievements. LSU last year was projected 6 seed, lost by 1 in the SEC title game, got fricked to an 8 seed. People like you are honestly pathetic. You're too dense to understand anything of actual meaning.

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So do you want to rethink your top 15 program under Wade thoughts?


No. LSU in the last 4 years has had a better overall program. Auburn and Kentucky didn't even make the fricking tournament last year. So if you say them missing the tournament doesn't matter, then what DOES matter?

You see how off all of you ignorant fools' arguments are?

ETA:

FYI- Ed Cooley is losing by 30 in his conference tournament...LET'S HIRE HIM!!!

Oh, also, you list all these things you demand in a coach, but neither of the options you've provided have come close to those successes. Which is absolutely hilarious
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 7:27 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
164206 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 7:38 pm to
No clue what’s going on here but I’ll guess “muh Wade doesn’t Devewuuuupp players” which is a lazy message board complaint


Smart improved as a shooter and scorer. I think he shot 46% from 3 last year. Days is showing me he can to get to the rim in different ways than in seasons past. Gaines is still erratic but he’s a consistent menace on D and I’ve noticed improvement in his lower body mechanics. Eason is shooting it better as well now that he’s figured out his footwork. Wade is huge on that.

Watford improved off the dribble and is actually getting minutes in the nba right now. Pinson has gone from a guy who was always trying to do the most at mizzou to a more play making oriented point guard. He’s just not a good shooter and quite a few of his turnovers are on his teammates having dreadful hands. Wilkinson is becoming a corner 3 and D guy. Murray has grown a lot. I think Fudge could develop nicely. Aaron Epps and Duop Reath improved under him. KBW improved his production after transferring in. Skylar Mays went from not being able to make a layup to shining as a JR/SR and getting drafted. Some fringe guys like Hyatt or the chess piece bigs like BPJ and Josh Gray leave in the portal but the players who are in the program improve. Sometimes it’s incremental but to act like players just deteriorate under Wade is ridiculous.
Posted by crowbar832001
Member since Dec 2008
3663 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 7:40 pm to
Calm damn Will Wade. Sorry to critique your team.

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I want you to name teams that in the last 3 years have a conference championship, a sweet 16 appearance, have won at least one game in the tournament each year.


That’s your criteria how about you do that. I’m not your google.

But I will list the teams that over the last 10 years made at least 3 sweet sixteens, 2elite eights, and a final four in the last decade.

Gonzaga, Baylor, Michigan st, Virginia, Michigan, Villanova, Kansas,Oregon, UNC, Syracuse, Kentucky, Wisconsin, Duke, Florida, Louisville, Ohio st, and Butler.

Just missing but having better results than lsu in the last decade is ucla, Texas tech, Loyola-Chicago, and UConn

27 different schools made the final four in the last 10 years. It isn’t just the blue bloods.

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Ed Cooley is losing by 30 in his conference


Cool so you just look at one game.


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So you’re a 60 year old


No buddy. Not even close. I have been watching basketball since I was very young. I didn’t start watching last year like you.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15255 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:08 pm to
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Sorry to critique your team.


Yea, so you don't know LSU. Got it. Oh, and you don't have good arguments so you try to be clever (but you're not)

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That’s your criteria how about you do that. I’m not your google.


You labeled the criteria earlier. Remember? LSU is a top 15 team, I've labeled why. You said I was wrong. Now the ball is in your court to tell me why. I'm guessing you're not the brightest.

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last 10 years


Dude...what

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Gonzaga, Baylor, Michigan st, Virginia, Michigan, Villanova, Kansas,Oregon, UNC, Syracuse, Kentucky, Wisconsin, Duke, Florida, Louisville, Ohio st, and Butler.


So..in your opinion, right now...Butler, Florida, Syracuse, Oregon...they're in better shape than us? Hell, throw in Louisville and Michigan.

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Loyola-Chicago


Holy. shite.

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27 different schools made the final four in the last 10 years.


You could potentially be one of the dumber people I've argued with. What does 10 years have to do with ANYTHING. That was Johnny Jones's 2nd season. That was Wade's first season at Chattanooga.

The ENTIRE AND CLEAR argument was the last few years since Wade took over and got to recruit for LSU. Honestly, are you literally dumb or you just don't understand the argument? Because I CLEARLY said LSU is a top 15 program over the last few years...like 3 years...like when Wade became coach

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Cool so you just look at one game.


Well, you only look at one season since you don't care that Cooley has never made a Sweet 16

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No buddy. Not even close. I have been watching basketball since I was very young. I didn’t start watching last year like you.


So you're around my age and called me son because...you're a weirdo

I've followed LSU for over 3 decades...this is the best footing the program has been in since the Shaq days. Anyone wanting to blow that up is just an actual dumbass
Posted by crowbar832001
Member since Dec 2008
3663 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:16 pm to
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You labeled the criteria earlier.


Yes I am discussing my criteria. About the question from the original post.


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What does 10 years have to do with ANYTHING.


So do you just argue in general or are your reading comprehension skills lacking. This is what I get for trying to have an opposing point of view from someone with the iq of a house plant.

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