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re: Can LSU continue to lose underclassmen to the NFL and stay dominant?

Posted on 7/6/13 at 5:08 am to
Posted by TigerGEAUX88
Dutchtown
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 5:08 am to
Didn't this message board say a few years ago that LM doesn't play freshman?? Now we are relying on freshman to step and not only play but compete against the rest of the SEC??
Posted by Bama74
MS Gulfcoast
Member since Dec 2012
429 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:25 am to
[quote]Who has a better record the last 3 years in the SEC?

Bama
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:35 am to
See my sig
Posted by TigerScribe
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 11:42 am to
Didn't read this whole thread, but my response to the OP's question:

What keeps you dominant is dominant talent. Dominant talent generally leaves early. Teams that are consistently dominant will consistently lose talent early. But they stay dominant by recruiting more dominant talent. If you're not losing talent early as a matter of routine, you are probably not dominant. So, to answer the question - yes, as long as LSU keeps recruiting dominant talent.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31878 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

[quote]Who has a better record the last 3 years in the SEC?

Bama


U sure bout that?
Posted by ole yeller
Bates Motel
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1938 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:13 pm to
On a related note, Kentucky Basketball is doomed!!!!
Posted by Teton Tiger
Somewhere between here and there.
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:32 pm to
Yes. Why you think the good ones come here?
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

What keeps you dominant is dominant talent. Dominant talent generally leaves early. Teams that are consistently dominant will consistently lose talent early. But they stay dominant by recruiting more dominant talent. If you're not losing talent early as a matter of routine, you are probably not dominant. So, to answer the question - yes, as long as LSU keeps recruiting dominant talent.

That is an interesting theory, but I don't see how it applies well to last year's squad. Was last year's team dominant? I will venture to say that the defense was dominant at times, but a defense rarely makes a whole team. How about Special Teams? Offense is a definite no. Some of the talent you lost underperformed last season. Based on 2012's results alone, LSU did not lost much dominant talent.

It's difficult to call any program in the SEC dominant nowadays. Alabama has done a good job of dominating the West Division teams not named LSU. I'll call LSU even with Alabama, but other than that would you call LSU dominant within the division? How about the conference? The SEC has too many good teams now, and those 1-hit wonders (2010 Auburn, 2012 Texas A&M) for any program to truly be on top. No one's truly dominant. Alabama's program is as close as it gets.
Posted by Bama74
MS Gulfcoast
Member since Dec 2012
429 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Who has a better record the last 3 years in the SEC?

Bama



quote:
U sure bout that?


Lets add


LSU BAMA
11-2 10-3 2010
13-1 12-1 2011
10-3 13-1 2012
34-6 35-5 Totals

Yes I sure bout dat
Posted by jmaclsu
Amite, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
505 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 1:45 pm to
He said in the sec.

2010. 6-2. 5-3
2011. 8-0. 7-1
2012. 6-2. 7-1

LSU. 20-4. Bama 19-5

Problem is bama leads in crystal 2-0 in the last 3 years
Posted by TigerTerez0307
Member since Apr 2013
617 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 1:46 pm to
34-6 vs 35-5 that's one hell of a gap you got there..
Posted by Bama74
MS Gulfcoast
Member since Dec 2012
429 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 1:55 pm to
He said best record in the SEC and Bama is in the SEC. And how big of a gap was not mentioned, he ask for best record.

But if you want to reword it to say "against the SEC" then you do have a point. But I would rather lose to SEC than ACC. Did you see how ugly that Mascot from Clemson was/is.

But yes we both have pretty good damn teams.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31878 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Lets add


LSU BAMA
11-2 10-3 2010
13-1 12-1 2011
10-3 13-1 2012
34-6 35-5 Totals

Yes I sure bout dat


Yes overall, but the question was SEC record. Official SEC games-LSU is 21-4, Bama 20-5, including unofficial SEC games 21-5, 21-5.
Posted by Bama74
MS Gulfcoast
Member since Dec 2012
429 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 2:52 pm to
see above
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Can LSU continue to lose underclassmen to the NFL and stay dominant?

No.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 3:07 pm to
Yeah I don't think this is really affecting just LSU. To me it's helping so many guys leave early. That allows Miles to rotate so many guys in to get experience. This allows our freshman and sophomores to be so much more game ready than just about anyone in the country. Because to be honest, unless a kid is just plain raw and it's a guarantee he won't contribute, redshirts are a waste nowadays. With the new compensation scale for the draft, kids are still leaving despite not getting 1st or 2nd round grades
Posted by jmaclsu
Amite, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
505 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 3:35 pm to
Regarding bama players coming back for fourth year:

It really depends on whether they are projected in the first round. Bama won't match first round money but second and third rounders really have to look at the compensation difference and whether it is enough to justify losing that fourth year of their rec contract. The amount of their buyout may be a factor as well.

Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10090 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

jmaclsu
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 4:30 pm to
The 3 and out is the new way it will be for the elite programs. Similar to the recent trend of 1 and out in basketball. I think LSU just caught the very first wave of this new trend. Theres just too much money to lose if u have an excellent year 3 and will be a high draft pick. Miles is on record saying that he encourages the 3 and out recruit. He wants to recruit kids that can see the field as freshmen and contribute immediately.
Posted by TigerTerez0307
Member since Apr 2013
617 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 7:06 pm to
Totally agree..
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