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Can anyone prove to me Will Wade wasn't talking about Shaka Smart on the wiretap?

Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:19 am
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:19 am
I apologize if this has been talked about already but, if you look at the alleged "transcript" (who knows if it even exists at this point) all he does is refer to the Smart thing and then talks about an "offer"

Will Wade was Shaka Smart's first ever assistant he hired when he was at VCU. They have a pretty extensive history so it wouldn't be something out of the blue

He does mention the person he is referring to is a "2-3 year guy" but, he could be talking again about just a "strong arse offer" that does not include any extra benefits

I think there's a ton of ways to attack this from Wade's standpoint without getting a lifetime ban in college basketball

Just hope our administration can be shown the door before Wade does. unfortunately, i don't have any trust in Alleva. He's brain dead at this point
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 11:21 am
Posted by sanora
Member since Feb 2019
1630 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:21 am to
Listen, he definitely talked about paying javonte smart.

The deal is, I don’t give a shite and there isn’t any concrete proof of the transactions so what the frick can they do? frick it
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20417 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:22 am to
Well when your admin goes full SJW and does not back your coach it looks worse.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:26 am to
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Listen, he definitely talked about paying javonte smart.


What concrete proof can you show that he did?

We make assumptions about a lot of things. Including if this recorded conversation is actually true or an unnamed source gave Yahoo a BS scoop
Posted by pufftiger
baton rouge
Member since Aug 2006
349 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:28 am to
So wade could have gone to the meeting WITH his attorneys and said I cannot talk about the trial at this time but I can assure you I did not make any monetary offers to players. You guys are twirling like a pretzel here. If he did nothing he could easily say so without directly speaking about it in detail. We all know how innocent people act when accused. I don't know what he is actually guilty of but he obviously did something whether major or minor. He is a big boy in a big boy sport. he understands we are where we are BECAUSE of his taped conversation. all of this talk that he could never coach here again because he was thrown under the bus is as much BS as Vitale saying he should resign. Of course he can coach here if this ends up being a minor infraction or nothing at all.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260563 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:30 am to
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So wade could have gone to the meeting WITH his attorneys and said I cannot talk about the trial at this time but I can assure you I did not make any monetary offers to players. You guys are twirling like a pretzel here


Correct. He chose to protect his own arse over the team and school.

The loyalties here are misguided.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:32 am to
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If he did nothing he could easily say so without directly speaking about it in detail. We all know how innocent people act when accused.


I think he's actually playing it smart. People who know how to circumnavigate Twitter rumors know the best thing is to wait it out and NOT jump to any drastic actions. Slow and calculated decisions need to be made in the world of "guilty until proven innocent"

Alleva, one of the most poor leaders I've ever seen, jumped to conclusions based on an unverified report and the twitter mob that followed.

If he would've waited this out, like Wade is doing now, we wouldn't have gotten the level of negative press we're seeing right now

Until I see concrete evidence that he paid recruits or talked about paying recruits, I'm not jumping to conclusions
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 11:33 am
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10022 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:33 am to
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Well when your admin goes full SJW


Alleva is an idiot, but this doesn't mean what you think it means.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:35 am to
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Correct. He chose to protect his own arse over the team and school.


If that's all you took away from this weekend, you have no hope in terms of intelligence
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80247 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:36 am to
Do you think Wade is going to try to peddle that nonsense when he’s questioned under oath with the threat of perjury hanging over his head?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12892 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:38 am to
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Can anyone prove to me Will Wade wasn't talking about Shaka Smart on the wiretap?

Yes. And his name is Christian Dawkins.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:41 am to
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Yes. And his name is Christian Dawkins.


I'm talking about proof. Not "his word against mine" bullshite like you're insinuating
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 11:42 am
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:41 am to
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Do you think Wade is going to try to peddle that nonsense when he’s questioned under oath with the threat of perjury hanging over his head?


Wade will plead the fifth to not incriminate himself. I'm talking specifically about NCAA investigations
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80247 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:48 am to
And you don’t think the NCAA will use that pleading of the fifth as evidence of his guilt?

If this were a civil lawsuit and he plead the fifth, the other party would get an adverse presumption that he actually did whatever he is pleading the fifth about. The NCAA will treat it the same way.

Some of you need to take a step back and ask yourself how you woukd view this situation if it happened at UT or UF or some other program not named LSU. You guys are making yourself look silly trying to dodge the glaring obviousness of what he was talking about.
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 11:51 am
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
59099 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:49 am to
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Do you think Wade is going to try to peddle that nonsense when he’s questioned under oath with the threat of perjury hanging over his head?



Exactly. It’s nonsense.

These idiots would be a defense team’s dream jurors. They want to to have video of Wade giving Smart money and saying “this is me, Will Wade, giving you, Jevante Smart, $100,000 to come play basketball at LSU” before they will consider it “proof.” Of course they’d probably move the goalposts again and say “well, he could be talking about any Jevante Smart” and demand social security numbers for “concrete proof.”

I don’t think the NCAA even has to meet the standard of “reasonable doubt,” but I don’t think it’s reasonable to doubt Wade is talking about Smart on those tapes. At all. Not to mention I’m sure the offer itself is a violation, whether money ever actually changed hands or not. Conspiring to commit a crime is usually a crime.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260563 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:50 am to
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Wade will plead the fifth to not incriminate himself. I'm talking specifically about NCAA investigations


Then he's screwed. And it's his own doing.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80247 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:51 am to
They’re R Kelly jurors in his first trial and they even had him on tape then
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
59099 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:55 am to
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20417 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:08 pm to
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Alleva is an idiot, but this doesn't mean what you think it means.
Yes it does and you fail to understand context.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20417 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:10 pm to
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Wade will plead the fifth to not incriminate himself. I'm talking specifically about NCAA investigations
What the frick are you talking about the NCAA does not charge anyone with a crime and you can't plead the 5th w the NCAA, wtf.

*Sorry not responding to you directly Roger hit the wrong post.
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 12:12 pm
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