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re: Burrow's every throw and run from 1st half of 2018 season

Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:02 pm to
Because you're disregarding passing TDs because it's not totally on QB. Well so are all of the other stats you're using in your comparison.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:02 pm to
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Because you're disregarding passing TDs because it's not totally on QB. Well so are all of the other stats you're using in your comparison
if lsu calls fewer pass plays in the rz, then burrow doesn't even have the OPPORTUNITY to make a good throw. That would artificially reduce his td passes. Moreover, Haskins is asked to throw an inordinately higher number of high percentage passes which artificially inflates his completion %.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98343 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:27 pm to
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calls fewer pass plays in the rz, then burrow doesn't even have the OPPORTUNITY to make a good throw.

What if they call fewer pass plays period in the game from every spot on the field? Why is it just the redzone? What if one player doesn't have as good of an OL and has to run more than the other? Doesn't that affect the rushing stats the same way you're saying that the completion percentage would be affected?
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Moreover, Haskins is asked to throw an inordinately higher number of high percentage passes which artificially inflates his completion %.

Unless he's not a good QB. Again, the logic you're applying to redzone TDs can be applied to every individual QB statistic.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:44 pm to
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What if they call fewer pass plays period in the game from every spot on the field?
already covered that. haskins was asked to throw more screens than pretty much everyone. he had more yardage from screens than any other p5 qb.

total passes
haskins - 496
burrow - 379

so haskins had significantly more opportunities than burrow yet, burrow still basically equaled haskins in completions of 25 yards or more.

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Why is it just the redzone?
because that's where the vast majority of td passes happen, not outside the rz

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What if one player doesn't have as good of an OL and has to run more than the other?
yep. this was an advantage for haskins for sure.

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Doesn't that affect the rushing stats the same way you're saying that the completion percentage would be affected?
absolutely. burrow's team didn't throw nearly as much so burrow didn't have the chance to equal haskins' completion %, yardage, td passes, etc.

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Unless he's not a good QB
there's no question that throwing more often behind/near the l.o.s. is going to increase completion %, regardless of how good the qb is.

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Again, the logic you're applying to redzone TDs can be applied to every individual QB statistic
not exactly
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