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re: Burrow's every throw and run from 1st half of 2018 season
Posted on 7/15/19 at 11:18 am to cforester821
Posted on 7/15/19 at 11:18 am to cforester821
JFC....... 
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 11:19 am to bfniii
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Td passes are not totally in the qb's hands so I have no idea why you would use that as a measure to determine which quarterback is better.
But, doesn't this same thing apply to every quarterback? IMO using this logic should negate any yards gained on screen passes because the QB isn't really responsible for the yardage.
quote:
4,831 passing yards,
this is awesome. No doubt about it.
Unless the majority of the yardage is gained by throwing the ball very close to the LOS.
quote:
I noticed you didn't include rushing yards nor pressures
That's because I don't recall you eliminating those ststs.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 11:23 am to bfniii
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so a negligible difference against the best defenses
That includes one extra game for Burrow
If I took out the lowest ranked top 15 team Burrow played, the passing yards drop to 762, which is 412 less yards than Haskins threw for in the same sample size against similar competition. quote:
Completion percentage is a bit misleading because Burrow's got better as the season went on. In the last four games, his percentage approached Haskins.
His last 4 games against trash Arkansas, Rice, A&M and UCF lmao. Maybe instead you should focus on the stats against top S&P+ defenses.
quote:
I noticed you didn't include rushing yards
So TDs and passing yards don't count, but rushing yards do? What?
quote:
I'm not seeing how Haskins is noticeably better.
Yeah, okay guy
Posted on 7/15/19 at 11:57 am to TigerLunatik
quote:um, no. You're saying every college team runs the same scheme/playcalls?
doesn't this same thing apply to every quarterback?
quote:that was the point of the quote I provided. Haskins had more yardage due to screens than any p5 qb.
using this logic should negate any yards gained on screen passes because the QB isn't really responsible for the yardage.
quote:which Haskins benefited greatly from and inflates his total yardage in comparison to burrow
Unless the majority of the yardage is gained by throwing the ball very close to the LOS
quote:my point was that if we include those stats, that's another aspect that burrow is noticeably better at
I don't recall you eliminating those ststs
Posted on 7/15/19 at 11:59 am to bfniii
Telltale sign if a thread like this has gone past 5 or 6 pages that it's a verfiable shite fest.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:00 pm to bfniii
quote:
um, no. You're saying every college team runs the same scheme/playcalls?
Then we should throw out passing yardage, completion percentage, rushing yards and rushing TDs too. That is also reflection of scheme and playcalling.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:02 pm to sicboy
quote:
Telltale sign if a thread like this has gone past 5 or 6 pages that it's a verfiable shite fest.
Not necessarily. bfniii and I are having a healthy discussion about stats. It's not nasty or vulgar, but just a good ole fashioned disagreement. That's how all of these threads should go.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:04 pm to Damone
quote:which I have acknowledged is awesome. However, it's also true that he had more yardage from screens than any P5 QB
412 less yards than Haskins threw for in the same sample size against similar competition.
quote:you hate you some Joe burrow, don't you? I noticed you didn't mention what defenses Haskins played against
His last 4 games against trash Arkansas, Rice, A&M and UCF lmao
quote:I never said that about td's and I addressed total yardage
So TDs and passing yards don't count
quote:absolutely. You're not saying that burrow isn't significantly better than Haskins in that regard, are you?
rushing yards do?
quote:in what specific ways do you think that Haskins is better?
Yeah, okay guy
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:06 pm to bfniii
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Being a quarterback
quote:
n what specific ways do you think that Haskins is better?
Being a quarterback
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:46 pm to clamdip
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But, you morons showing Haskins shovel passes as a reason to believe Burrow is actually better than Haskins are, well, morons.
By you reading what I posted, specifically stating that I wan't making any comparisons, then posting what you posted, demonstrates that you are, well, a moron.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:53 pm to TigerLunatik
quote:total passing yardage does have a couple of caveats as we have been discussing. Some people just want to look at that raw number and conclude that Haskins is miles better.
Then we should throw out passing yardage
quote:burrow arrived on campus a few weeks before the season started. Haskins has a huge advantage in that regard. Also, osu's scheme had him throwing a much higher percentage throw when under pressure which is another huge advantage for him over burrow
completion percentage
quote:absolutely not. Speed, strength and agility are not scheme/playcalling. Burrow is definitely superior in this regard
rushing yards
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:58 pm to bfniii
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree then.
Respect for keeping the disagreement civil. That's pretty rare these days around here.
Respect for keeping the disagreement civil. That's pretty rare these days around here.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:21 pm to Damone
quote:well that narrows it down. So you think Haskins is a better runner than burrow?
Being a quarterback
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:21 pm to TigerLunatik
quote:Shouldn't you add a Bwahahaha after that? To avoid looking like a phony?
Respect for keeping the disagreement civil. That's pretty rare these days around here
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:30 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
Shouldn't you add a Bwahahaha after that? To avoid looking like a phony?
Lunatik is a historically fair and non-insulting poster. If I see a string of posts where he's really going after another ranter I can confidently surmise the other guy drew first blood.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:33 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 7/15/19 at 4:03 pm to The First Cut
Friday practice before the Western Michigan game 2015?
Posted on 7/15/19 at 4:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You're just paranoid
of what?
let's not act like you havent claimed vastly inferior teams are more talented than lsu so you dont have to address coaching.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 4:11 pm to bfniii
quote:
Also, funny that you are dismissing how the stats are actually generated - by watching the games
by watching all 22 film by trained eyes.
not by some guy that doesnt know where the 5 technique lines up.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 4:12 pm to p&g
quote:
Never ever concede tard.
concede what?
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