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re: Burrow is the best complete QB in the SEC. True or False?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:17 pm to dallastiger55
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:17 pm to dallastiger55
Mega false 
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Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:18 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
Burrow is the best complete QB
With criteria.
Under pressure
Rushing
Passing
Toughness
Yes, I think he could grow into the best complete QB. He's not as of the end of last season
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:20 pm to TigerBait55
Easy, good decision making, strong feet, great arm, accurate passing, good reads, strong body and mind.
His only major observable weakness is pocket presence imo but half the time that's exemplified by our God awful tackles (in comparison to top talent, not in general) allowing so much blind side pressure.
His only major observable weakness is pocket presence imo but half the time that's exemplified by our God awful tackles (in comparison to top talent, not in general) allowing so much blind side pressure.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:22 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
So Tua may be a top 5 QB.
Could you list your top 5 QBs in the country from best to 5th best?
Could you list your top 5 QBs in the country from best to 5th best?
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:25 pm to Madking
quote:Your problem is simple. You think these are individual stats. They are not. They are heavily weighted by team performance, intrinsic team talent, and coaching scheme.
he was top 5 nationally in every major statistical category and is the only returning QB in the country who did so. It’s called proof,
Again, Tua is easily a top-10 QB. Best in the nation? No.
Best stats? Sure. Whatever. Close enough.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:28 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
You are out of control.
So if we can't use the statistics to judge quality, how do we do it? Eye test?
So if we can't use the statistics to judge quality, how do we do it? Eye test?
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:33 pm to dallastiger55
Like Burrow but he’s not the most complete in the Sec. He has the tools, leadership, and work ethic to be among the best, but right now the best in the Sec is Tua.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:40 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
I’m sorry to be the one that has to break this to you but stats represent production on the field, they aren’t fake numbers that the media puts out to make players look better than they are, they represent what actually happened on the field. Sure there’s such a thing as garbage time stats but Tua didn’t even play in half of the second halves last season and he led his team to the national title game. So you see there’s really noway for you to try and spin what Tua did. Your argument basically breaks down to saying that you alone are the judge of who’s good and who’s not and it doesn’t matter that every measurable tool we have says otherwise. That’s delusional. For example I don’t get to say Odell Beckham Sr. was the best runningback in the country just because he was my favorite runningback when he played at LSU.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:42 pm to Madking
quote:
I think mentally he’s outstanding but the OPs comments about him having “the best arm in the SEC” and the other asinine statements being made by the fantasy land gang are completely false and have no basis in reality.
I agree 100%. The young man seems to be extremely bright, but he doesn't appear to be as athletically gifted as some of the other QB's in the conference or in the nation.
At least he hasn't shown that he's as gifted yet.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:45 pm to Goldrush25
quote:No. You can't use individual stats where team skills, talent, and scheme are the biggest factor in the QBs stats.
So if we can't use the statistics to judge quality, how do we do it? Eye test?
I guess you could use them, but it would make for a simplistic analysis. And yes, the eye test may be far superior depending on whose eye it is. A sportswriter who has never played a down of competitive football? Please. All he has is simplistic stats.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:45 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Do you have any proof to backup your statements? Because you know facts and proof are what determines truth and reality not fantasies and wishes.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:47 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
And yes, the eye test may be far superior depending on whose eye it is. A sportswriter who has never played a down of competitive football? Please. All he has is simplistic stats.
Weren't you just touting the "fact" that "the media" is talking about Burrow being a top-5 QB or something?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:47 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
You can't use individual stats where team skills, talent, and scheme are the biggest factor
Then you can't use offensive stats for any player ever in the history of football.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:48 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
A sportswriter who has never played a down of competitive football? Please. All he has is simplistic stats.
Why do you keep saying "a sportswriter?"
I haven't heard one coach or anyone that has anything to do with college football, nor anyone that covers college football say that Burrow is better than Tua or even in the same ballpark, or that Tua is not arguably the best QB in the country. But you know better apparently.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:48 pm to earl keese
Yes I’m excited to see how much he can improve and I do like the Brady comparisons because I think he and Burrow have the same advantages and disadvantages proportional to their competition. I think I’m the right offense Burrow could flourish but he has to improve on his accuracy.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:48 pm to tigerdup07
quote:
he is a tough qb but, talent wise.........there's a few that are better.
I'm happy, happy, happy to have him!
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:50 pm to lsu2006
“And yes, the eye test may be far superior depending on whose eye it is.”
This is the most delusional and incorrect statement a person could possibly make lol. It’s the exact opposite of reality.
This is the most delusional and incorrect statement a person could possibly make lol. It’s the exact opposite of reality.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:50 pm to TigerLunatik
quote:
Then you can't use offensive stats for any player ever in the history of football.
Jeaux is officially off his rocker.
He saying "if you just ignore the stats, Burrow's clearly better than everyone."
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:55 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
I haven't heard one coach or anyone that has anything to do with college football, nor anyone that covers college football say that Burrow is better than Tua or even in the same ballpark, or that Tua is not arguably the best QB in the country. But you know better apparently.
Not true.
Urban Meyer said numerous times that Burrow and Haskins are equal. (and he coached them both for years). Do you think Tua is better than Haskins?
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 4:58 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Link? And yes Tua is better than Haskins, Tua will be a top 2-5 pick, where did Haskins go in a draft that didn’t have elite QB prospects?
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 5:28 pm
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