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re: Burrow is the best complete QB in the SEC. True or False?

Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by earl keese
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:14 pm to
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TigerLunatik


I gotta tell ya Lunatik, you're one of my absolute favorite posters.


I loved that gif last night. I love it just as much tonight.

It fits perfectly.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:14 pm to
That can be your little secret lmao.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:18 pm to
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Possibly, but not all the pressure was from the DL

He was terrible on third down.



The foundation of the pass rush is the defensive line. It enables the defense.

When we look back years from now we may say that Clemson line was one of CFB's all-time greatest lines. And you say all we have to do is what they did.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:24 pm to
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The foundation of the pass rush is the defensive line. It enables the defense.

When we look back years from now we may say that Clemson line was one of CFB's all-time greatest lines. And you say all we have to do is what they did.


That's an incredible oversimplication of what happened and anything I said, as we were discussing Tua vs a 12 game schedule.

This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 11:29 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:25 pm to
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earl keese

Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:38 pm to
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earl keese



I thought the same thing.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:45 pm to
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That's an incredible oversimplication



Simple and nega go hand in hand.
Posted by earl keese
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:57 pm to
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I thought the same thing.




Maybe he should change his name to Waffle Jeaux or Crawfish Jeaux.

Pretty odd to say something on one page then say the complete opposite a page later.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:59 pm to
This thread still going? What am I missing?
Posted by earl keese
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:07 am to
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This thread still going?


HELL YEAH!

quote:

What am I missing?


You're missing all the fun TigerFan. Pull up a seat, kick your shoes off, get comfortable and stay a while.

It's getting late into the night. Someone's bound to make an arse out of themselves. You don't want to miss out on that, do you?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:10 am to
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The foundation of the pass rush is the defensive line. It enables the defense. 


you have to realize that youre conversing with someone that used tackles and passes defended to rank DEs.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:11 am to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:50 am to
Gee Roger. It looks like the O-Bashers have given up on arguing about actual football (smart move for them) and taken the battle to Nit-Picking-Word-Games. Earl came up with this gem:

quote:

Two different points:
1. Burrow was one of the 5 best QBs last season. IMO, he was.
2. Could Burrow have been drafted in the '19 draft as a top-5 QB pick. Not likely.


So in one post, he says Burrow wouldn't be a top 5 QB with last seasons stats, then he turns around one page later and says that Burrow was one of the 5 best QB's last season, in his opinion.

Yet still not be one of the top-5 QB's picked in the 2019 draft.



So yeah, of course it was "not likely" that Burrow would have been drafted in '19 - his stats were weighted down by poor scheme, and by mediocre O-Line and WR play. But he was still intrinsically one of the 5 best QBs in college ball.

Burrow is the very same QB this season, but his stats will jump because:

1) A VASTLY IMPROVED SCHEME - The Spread/RPO is a superior offene.
2) By an improved O-Line who also will usually be under 2.5 seconds pass rush defending,
3) Receivers who will be more in synch with Joe, and will be most often catching short high-percentage throws
An additional plus for Joe-
4) A Spread/RPO QB is a hot item in the NFL these days

So, Joe will be essentially be the same QB, but will have vastly better stats in 2019. Obviously, IMO, Joe's skill set was Top-5 among QBs in '19, but his stats were not.

I think he almost certainly would have been drafted in '19, but in the later rounds.

So bottom line:
Joe was a Top-5 QB in skills, etc. in '19, but not in stats.
This season Joe will have the same skills, etc, but will also have the stats

Maybe if we can catch Earl in a sober moment, he'll be able to comprehend such distinctions... or maybe not!

This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 3:53 am
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31014 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:00 am to
You're caught in a lie, deal with it. Now I'm showing you your posts regarding it.

You posted it. Not Earl, not me, you posted it.

quote:

Buckeye says Burrow wouldn't be a top 5 QB with last seasons stats, then he turns around one page later and says that Burrow was one of the 5 best QB's last season, in his opinion.


Actually you have it backwards. You were the one who said that he wouldn't be a top 5 QB and in the following page, you said the exact opposite.

quote:

Burrow was one of the 5 best QBs last season. IMO, he was.


You said it, not Earl. He even showed you YOUR posts confirming it. Point the blame at everyone but yourself, even when posts of your own confirm it.

.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 4:11 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:33 am to
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This thread still going? What am I missing?



Joe Burrow might be the best QB that's ever lived, that's all.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:36 am to
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that used tackles and passes defended to rank DEs.


And you're the idiot who said tackles =/= production.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39981 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:36 am to
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Joe Burrow might be the best QB that's ever lived, that's all.


"Might"?

frick YOU, you negative miserable hater. If your so miserable go cheer for Bama CUCK. Pathetic sack of shite you are.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:48 am to
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You're caught in a lie, deal with it. Now I'm showing you your posts regarding it.


Yeah a-hole. I left out "QB" in one sentence, and you and your jerk circle call it a lie. LOL

You assclowns are grabbing at straws.

And if you can't comprehend that scheme can completely change stats, you shouldn't be commenting about football.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 10:52 am
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32891 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:56 am to
When I look at Jeaux Burreaux, I see a mix of Joe Montana, Steve Young, Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning all in one. Hopefully Jeaux Brady will add a little Drew Brees to that.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39981 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:57 am to
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When I look at Jeaux Burreaux, I see a mix of Joe Montana, Steve Young, Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning all in one.

Except with more toughness and street smarts than all of these pussies combined.
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