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re: Burrow is the best complete QB in the SEC. True or False?
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:23 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:23 pm to Goldrush25
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They are factors, but you know what the biggest factor is behind a QB's stats? How good he is.
Right, what would rather have a HOF QB and avg WR or stud WR and an avg QB? History has shown us that answer
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:23 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Like I said and you conveniently left out you’ve changed the original statement each time a piece of it gets debunked. Your narrative is completely false and only exists in your head. In your mind no quarterback is ever responsible for his own play and it’s always those around him who are at fault when in reality the opposite is more true. A good QB can elevate everyone else because of the control he has over every snap which is why they’re so valuable you tool box. Now you’ve twice been asked to back your insane statements and both times you’ve refused to even acknowledge it. Goes to show you’re just a blowhard who doesn’t even believe his own bullshite.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:27 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Brady wasn’t Brady then but again one but you is arguing it’s all about stats. Also since when was the Slinger a ground and pound OC?
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:28 pm to H-Town Tiger
Typical of Joe, he uses stats when they help his argument then dismisses them when they don’t. If guys like him didn’t have double standards they wouldn’t have any standards at all.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:38 pm to Madking
quote:Unitas was a great QB. He won 12 games and lost 22 as a starter at Louisville. He was 3-6 as a Senior.
A good QB can elevate everyone else because of the control he has over every snap which is why they’re so valuable you tool box.
You don't know what the frick you are talking about.
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QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme. Deal with it.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:41 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Lmfao and you still can’t grasp the concept of styles of football and levels of football being any different. You’re completely ignorant when it comes to football period and if you had any balls you’d take me and Gold up on our bet coward.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:45 pm to Madking
I don't bet with weaseling little bitches!!!
You are showing your arse to everyone on this board. You know absolutely nothing about the passing game OR football in general.
Keep spinning - it's hilarious!!!
"QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme."
Every time you try to deny this you look even dumber!!! LOL!!!
You are showing your arse to everyone on this board. You know absolutely nothing about the passing game OR football in general.
Keep spinning - it's hilarious!!!
"QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme."
Every time you try to deny this you look even dumber!!! LOL!!!
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:50 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
You’re arguing with a troll - and a dumb one at that. 
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:55 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
All you guys do the same thing, you project what you do onto anyone who exposes you and you always declare this vast support you have that never exists. I’m not spinning anything you’re attempting to but it’s not working. Your sad little narrative has been debunked and was never valid in anyway and it’s you who’s being laughed off the board for the constant ridiculous statements you make. And for further proof of projection you crawfish from a bet while attempting to blame me for it. In other words you’re such a coward that you leave yourself outs instead of standing up for yourself like a man. Make the bet or stfu coward.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:01 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
“I don't bet with weaseling little bitches!!! “
Only a guilty party would feel the need for constant cursing and insults. If your positions were true you wouldn’t need to do this but you don’t even have an elementary grasp of psychology. The bet is a win win for you if you’d believe what you’re saying but you don’t. If you win you’re right and I’m wrong and if I crawfish you can blast me forever for doing so. There is no downside for you but you still act like there is further proving you’re full of shite yet again.
Only a guilty party would feel the need for constant cursing and insults. If your positions were true you wouldn’t need to do this but you don’t even have an elementary grasp of psychology. The bet is a win win for you if you’d believe what you’re saying but you don’t. If you win you’re right and I’m wrong and if I crawfish you can blast me forever for doing so. There is no downside for you but you still act like there is further proving you’re full of shite yet again.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:04 pm to Madking
"QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme."
Dude. You're nuts. Anyone who would attempt to deny the above fundamental football statement can't be trusted with sharp objects.
If you can't admit the simplest football axiom, how could you be trusted to pay a bet you lose? You're a phony, dude. frick off.
Dude. You're nuts. Anyone who would attempt to deny the above fundamental football statement can't be trusted with sharp objects.
If you can't admit the simplest football axiom, how could you be trusted to pay a bet you lose? You're a phony, dude. frick off.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:10 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Nothing but a straw man attempt and a failed one at that. Bet me now that Joe Burrow will be a top 5 pick or just shut your mouth. Any response besides standing for your statement is a cop out and proof that you don’t even believe the shite you say.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:18 pm to Madking
quote:First admit that the above statement is 100% correct, before we can talk about a bet.
"QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme."
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:22 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
No because it isn’t, by using the term Heavily you’re trying to insinuate that a QBs numbers are completely the responsibility of everyone else and have nothing to do with the QB. This is your original statement before you amended it and the heart of everything you’ve argued in this thread. Your position is completely false and has been debunked by the dozens of examples that prove it to be so. Now either make the bet or prove yourself a phony. Me agreeing with your stupid statement has no bearing on whether or not you make the bet. This is just another bailout attempt and stall tactic being used by a coward who doesn’t want to put his money where his mouth is.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:28 pm to LsuTool
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Tua was a first year starter with a comp % of 70 and like 40/6 TD/int ratio. He showed his ability to buckle under pressure in the NC game as a freshman huh? Joe is a good QB tho
He was extraordinary vs UGA, very human vs. Clemson. Of course any qb would had an issue with the pass rushers on that Clemson DL. Tua can get rattled like any other QB. But his accuracy and arm strength are amazing.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:32 pm to Madking
He won't be a top 5 pick but he can end up in the first 3-5 rounds. That translates into a pretty good SEC talent. He does not have the raw physical tools of Fromm or Tua but he has enough juice to lead a team to a championship in CFB or a conference title.
And y'all know what those who take things too seriously, Negatigers and Gump imposters (not necessarily you but others on this board) - lay off the homer. It is ok especially this time of year to be that way. I prefer that than the Negatiger randtard m...f...g way of dissing our players and coaches and calling them chiitte to sound cool for their friends in other fan bases, the need to seek negative attention due to personal issues or trolling to make one self feel important when they themselves are chiite.
And y'all know what those who take things too seriously, Negatigers and Gump imposters (not necessarily you but others on this board) - lay off the homer. It is ok especially this time of year to be that way. I prefer that than the Negatiger randtard m...f...g way of dissing our players and coaches and calling them chiitte to sound cool for their friends in other fan bases, the need to seek negative attention due to personal issues or trolling to make one self feel important when they themselves are chiite.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:39 pm to Madking
QB stats is PARTIALLY influenced by the talent around them. Then there is the QB him self. Not hard to understand really.
But y'all are being too harsh on the OP. He feels Jeaux Jeaux is the best complete QB in SEC. I don't agree because there are three more with better arms than him and are also good leaders. However, is Jeaux Jeaux the best leader of all the SEC QBs? If LSU ends up in the playoffs this year the answer to that question is open to discussion. Even if they don't end up in playoffs he is a leader and that quality is perhaps his best attribute.
But y'all are being too harsh on the OP. He feels Jeaux Jeaux is the best complete QB in SEC. I don't agree because there are three more with better arms than him and are also good leaders. However, is Jeaux Jeaux the best leader of all the SEC QBs? If LSU ends up in the playoffs this year the answer to that question is open to discussion. Even if they don't end up in playoffs he is a leader and that quality is perhaps his best attribute.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 12:12 am
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:42 pm to Canwoodtiger
Don’t get me wrong I love Burrow, I’ve never been more impressed with one of our QBs ability to command an offense. Between the ears I think he’s elite and possibly the best in the nation. I’ve said more than once I think it’s possible that he’ll have a top 3-5 season for a QB at LSU. I also agree with you that he has limitations, as of now his accuracy hasn’t been great or even A-. Now that maybe because of his limited time at LSU last season or the route concepts, this year should tell us more. He doesn’t have a great arm, he has an average power-5 arm but nothing that would make him a top draft prospect. I agree completely with your first sentence, that I don’t think there’s anyway he’ll be a top 5 pick. There have been a lot of college QBs who were great competitors and very smart but to be an elite QB prospect you must have the measurables athletically and he simply doesn’t. That’s also doesn’t mean he can’t develop into a starter at the next level but comparing him to Brady, who does have a big arm and elite accuracy, is just beyond the pale.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:46 pm to Canwoodtiger
He’s made asinine statement after asinine statement and when presented data that refuted them he’s responded with vitriol and dishonesty. That’s why the argument escalated. We all love Joe and we all hope the offense takes off with the help of Brady but to call him the absolute best in college football a top 5 pick and rival to the greatest QBs of alltime is not only premature but false.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:10 am to Madking
gotcha. I was late in the conversation. He can believe what he wants...no matter how wrong he is:).
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