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re: Burrow is the best complete QB in the SEC. True or False?

Posted on 5/19/19 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 5:10 pm to
quote:


You are now saying that WRs, O-Line, and scheme are NOT huge factors in a QBs stats?


They are factors, but you know what the biggest factor is behind a QB's stats? How good he is.

But go ahead, throw the whole damn team and coaching staff under the bus because he's not who you think he is. You're already throwing Ensminger and the WRs under the bus because you don't think they're practicing with Jugs machines enough.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

They are factors, but you know what the biggest factor is behind a QB's stats? How good he is.


Right, genius. Like Brady's stats at Michigan.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 5:16 pm to
I have, believe me. There doesn’t appear to be any publicized experience at all. I think you’re simply pushing propaganda.
Posted by GirthBrooks62
The Booty House
Member since Oct 2017
1208 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 5:16 pm to
No. There are some other guys that have more skill than he does but he is a hell of a competitor and one of the best we have had in a while. He is more like 8-12 best QB in the nation right now which plenty for us to win a bunch of ball games and make a NY6 bowl.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

You're already throwing Ensminger and the WRs under the bus because you don't think they're practicing with Jugs machines enough.
WRs shouldn't have to break the law to get to the Jugs machine.

If they are not getting daily access, it is on the ENTIRE staff - Moffitt, Brady, E & Orgeron. All goog guys, but they are fricking up if the rumors of no daily access are true.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 5:20 pm to
I fully acknowledge that there is a miniscule chance that Burrow could possibly turn into the best professional QB of all time.

Until then, try not to use outliers to make a point that Burrow's being held back by everyone around him.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:25 pm to
Brady had better stats and a better record than Burrow at Michigan in the 90s before all the rules were slanted toward offense. He wasn’t even a full time starter and was running a much more run heavy offense with almost no 3 wide sets. Sorry try again.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

Brady had better stats and a better record than Burrow at Michigan

Michigan was 10-3 in '98 and 10-2 in '99

And Brady's overall qb rating was 133.2, Burrow's is at 135.1

My point stands - QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:22 pm to
FWIW without links nobody buys any of the stats you post, you’re a known grifter and liar with zero credibility whatsoever.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:22 pm to
You’ve made no point to stand and you’re being dishonest about the numbers. Tom Brady’s two years starting at Michigan his passer ratings were 133.1 in 98 and 138.0 in 99 joe Burrows was 133.2 last season. Tom Brady’s record 20-5 over 2 years for a winning pct of 80% Joe Burrows 10-3 in his lone season for 76% but don’t let facts get in the way of this continued idiotic willfully ignorant narrative you’re trying to invent.



LINK

LINK

This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 8:24 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40033 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:26 pm to
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And Brady's overall qb rating was 133.2

134.9 over 4 seasons at Michigan.

Burrow's was 133.2 last season and 133.5 overall including his stats at OSU.

Why are you a liar?
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:27 pm to
We may have a good year but some of you people overthink this shite way too much.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

You’ve made no point to stand and you’re being dishonest about the numbers. Tom Brady’s two years starting at Michigan his passer ratings were 133.1 in 98 and 138.0 in 99 joe Burrows was 133.2 last season. Tom Brady’s record 20-5 over 2 years for a winning pct of 80% Joe Burrows 10-3 in his lone season for 76% but don’t let facts get in the way of this continued idiotic willfully ignorant narrative you’re trying to invent.



Nice try.

Nothing you said changes these facts:

quote:

Michigan was 10-3 in '98 and 10-2 in '99

And Brady's overall qb rating was 133.2, Burrow's is at 135.1

NEWS FLASH!!!! [Correction of typo - Brady's overall rating was 134.9 - still a tick below Burrow's 135.1]

My point stands - QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme.


Burrow: LINK
Brady: LINK
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:33 pm to
Those aren’t facts they’re lies, even your links say so lmao.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
30951 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

Whether you believe Joe is the best or not is one thing. 

How do you guys ride Buckeye so hard when hes purple glassing the QB but allow Tiger88 and others to crap on the QB and not say a word is sad. 

This post was edited on 5/19 at 10:50 am




See that's the thing, he's not purple glassing Joe... He don't care about LSU, just Joe.. Look when he signed up... Look at the fact that he knows the exact date that Joe broke his hand, look at how much he knows about Ohio State and there sportswriters.. I think you've got a guy thats connected to Joe and enough so, that he's willing to change allegiances to whoever Joe plays for... He will be gone after next year.. Watch
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:36 pm to
Gotta love how he cherry picks stats and context for one guy while posting incorrect and poorly slanted numbers without context for the other. This guy has gotten a lot of run out of the most asinine statement ever made.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

See that's the thing, he's not purple glassing Joe... He don't care about LSU, just Joe.. Look when he signed up... Look at the fact that he knows the exact date that Joe broke his hand, look at how much he knows about Ohio State and there sportswriters.. I think you've got a guy thats connected to Joe and enough so, that he's willing to change allegiances to whoever Joe plays for...


Great post and very well said.

Jeaux doesn't give a rat's arse about LSU.

quote:

He will be gone after next year.. Watch


The idiot has even stated that once Burrow is gone, he'll most likely leave as well.

I for one can't wait for ole crackhead jeaux to hit the road.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:41 pm to
My point is clear and straightforward

QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme.

You expose yourself as the most clueless of fan-boys by attempting to deny this.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:44 pm to
Buckeye Joe Logic :

Jordan Jefferson- 2,166 yards, 17TDs, 7INTs, 137.2 rating

Joe Montana- 2,010 yards, 10TDs, 9INTs, 124.9 ratings

“Jordan Jefferson is a better QB than Joe Montana and could be the greatest QB of alltime. Deserves to be in the Hall Of Fame.”
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:46 pm to
You don’t have a point you poor delusional bastard.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 8:48 pm
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