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re: Burrow & SEC QBs drop rate vs NFL's - CFB Film Room Debunked

Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296928 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:14 pm to
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I'm shocked to see you say this. Usually you act like you know so much more than the rest of us.


This is your imagination chief.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78279 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:16 pm to
You seem to care enough about other people’s opinions to go on and on in threads about them.

I mean Why are you here?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108528 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:19 pm to
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I know precisely what it is.

No you don’t

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296928 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:20 pm to
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You seem to care enough about other people’s opinions to go on and on in threads about them.


There's a huge difference between listening to an opinion and putting any faith in it.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78279 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:22 pm to
Why have an opinion you have no faith in?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296928 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:29 pm to
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No you don’t


I certainly know 25% of Tennessee's incompletions weren't drops.
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:29 pm to
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Right. So CFB is claiming LSUs WRs had about 1 1/2 drops per game. More like 3+ IMO.


You have really become a joke in your attempts to show us how great Burrow is and that he is actually better than two Big 10 record setting and Heisman finalist QBs. You've got to be related to Burrow.

Even if the CFB Film Room drop rates are not measured correctly, whatever measurement used was used for all of the SEC teams. So LSU numbers are still relative to the other SEC teams. Or are you arguing that, like Urban Meyers, CFB Film Room is being unfair to your boy Burrow.

I don't know if you can find an LSU fan on here who is not happy with Burrow as LSU's QB. Why you feel the need to continually blow smoke up our asses about Burrow's greatness is mystifying.

We also know that Burrow numbers were hurt by dropped passes. But so were all QBs numbers. The point was that in the SEC, unlike many posters including you want to claim, Burrow's number were hurt no more that most QBs.

Many like me believe that passing game numbers should be spread among all participants including the offensive coordinator, offensive line, receivers, backs, TEs and your golden child, Burrow. We feel no one is exempt from being blamed like many of you want to exempt Burrow. On many occasions Burrow threw inaccurate passed, missed seeing open receivers and held the ball too long. To place all the blame on the receivers and offensive line is being disingenuous.

Burrow may end up being better than J.T. Barrett and Dwayne Haskins, but he hasn't shown that skill level up to this point, even considering the failings of his offensive teammates which you so happily throw under the bus. Everything should be in place next year for him to prove your point. All he has to do is throw for 50 TDs, with less than 10 interceptions and become a Heisman finalist. Oh, and lead the team to an 11+ win total and consideration for the CFP. All easily achievable goals if he is half as good as you claim.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108528 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:41 pm to
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I certainly know 25% of Tennessee's incompletions weren't drops.

Why? That only means a drop rate of 8.8%, or 18 total drops......

This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 5:42 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296928 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:46 pm to
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Even if the CFB Film Room drop rates are not measured correctly, whatever measurement used was used for all of the SEC teams


I think it relies on fans reporting stuff.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:59 pm to
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You're just paranoid


Nope, but I am being entertained watching you guys try to find ways to support a offense that's worse than Cam's of 2015 which was shite on at every opportunity.

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All you want is to fire everyone.




I don't think either O or E should have been hired. I don't LSU will ever contend for a NC with them in control. I don't think ten wins means all the much at LSU I know, but we cant fire a ten win coach in his second year. Thanks to Alleva and his stupid search, we are stuck right now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296928 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:03 pm to
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watching you guys try to find ways to support a offense


That's not what's happening here
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:03 pm to
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I certainly know 25% of Tennessee's incompletions weren't drops.

Why? That only means a drop rate of 8.8%, or 18 total drops......


Did they only attempt 10.5 passes per game.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296928 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:06 pm to
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Thanks to Alleva and his stupid search, we are stuck right now.


You poor little thing
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108528 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:07 pm to
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Did they only attempt 10.5 passes per game.

Let me explain this to the math wizards in here

The chart in the op was made with two games remaining

Gurantanos stats were as follows

140/215

So, he had 75 incompletions

25% of those being drops mean he had 19 drops

19 drops/215 total passes is a drop rate of 8.8%


Those numbers all make logical sense
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10361 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:23 pm to
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By all metrics? BS. The only one that matters is W/L. LSU was 5-1 and ranked.


Is that why you started multiple threads this year about both haskins and burrows stats, none of them talking about wins and losses? Good god youre a moron.

Another stupid thread by buckeye jeaux, another opportunity for him to run away like the bitch he is and not address any of this:

All year you have told this board that 1. joe burrow is a better quarterback than Dwayne haskins and 2. Joe burrow is a top 5 quarterback in college football. You've said repeatedly that everyone would see both of these things to be true by the end of year.

It’s now the end of the year. State your case for each of those things being true.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:25 pm to
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watching you guys try to find ways to support a offense

That's not what's happening here




That's exactly what is happening, but I wouldn't expect anyone who thought LSU loss to Troy in 2017 because Troy was the more talented team to be able to figure it out.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296928 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:49 pm to
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That's exactly what is happening,


Orgeron sucks!

Feel better?
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:53 pm to
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joe burrow is a better quarterback than Dwayne haskins


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Joe burrow is a top 5 quarterback in college football.


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It's now the end of the year. State your case for each of those things being true.


You've got as much a chance of this clown answering your post as you would of ree answering a post asking for a W/L prediction of an o led football team.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:00 pm to
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Even if the CFB Film Room drop rates are not measured correctly, whatever measurement used was used for all of the SEC teams


You're dreaming. We looked into CFB at OSU. Best estimate was that they use 50+ volunteers to cover the 160+ games in one conference.

You seriously believe 50 amateurs grade a "drop" in a uniform way - regardless of what "instructions" CFB posts for their "advanced analysts"? CFB can't even keep the main page on their website up to date.

Gullible much?

This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:10 pm to
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You've got as much a chance of this clown answering your post as you would of ree answering a post asking for a W/L prediction of an o led football team.


I told that jackass weeks ago that I was done dealing with him. And I am.
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