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re: Brennan's pre-snap reads and progressions - a break down of one play
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:56 am to airfernando
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:56 am to airfernando
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your question and response are idiotic. Have you seen any of Burrow's film? He's so far ahead of the other qbs there should be no doubt in your mind. Burrow will be as good as any qb we've had since Hodson.
This is you doubling down on dumb. There is nothing showing JB is "so far ahead" of anyone IN OUR SYSTEM. You have zero clue and really shouldn't post with JBs dick in your mouth.
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Burrow will be as good as any qb we've had since Hodson.
O M G
Let's see him EARN the start before you have his cocks bronzed so you can use it as your anal dildo
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Posted on 7/14/18 at 10:07 am to Bestbank Tiger
As soon as Brennon sees the corner covering Pettigrew start his back peddle, he should anticipate the throw and go with his #1 read. If the corner sits on the route without back peddling then he should progress through his reads. I think Brennon should redshirt this year if Mcmillon does stay. There’s nothing wrong with waiting some time, developing, and becoming a more mature QB when his time comes.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 10:14 am to rmnldr
Route 1 would have been open if:
-the WR doesn’t raise his hands showing the DB that he is where they were hoping he would be. DB then adjusts.
-If it was one of the last reads instead of the first.
Given the play call and coverage he made the right read, just needed 1 second more of patience.
-the WR doesn’t raise his hands showing the DB that he is where they were hoping he would be. DB then adjusts.
-If it was one of the last reads instead of the first.
Given the play call and coverage he made the right read, just needed 1 second more of patience.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 10:16 am to rmnldr
I dont think his reads were bad tbh. Pettigrew can wave his arms all he wants when its time for him to curl the DB is only a few yards a away and could have broken on the ball.
It's not like Brennan missed a wide open opportunity here imo.
It's not like Brennan missed a wide open opportunity here imo.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 10:19 am to rmnldr
quote:When he curls, the DB is only about 4-5 yards off and is staring straight Brennan. He didnt have his head turned away running upfield, he was reading to make a play on the ball imo.
The curl was wide open because the CB was playing off so much.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 10:25 am to The Mick
4-5 yards off while back peddling, how much more room does he need? Brennon knows the route, the CB doesn’t, anticipate and throw. Waiting for receivers to be wide open without anticipating them coming open is one of the reasons our passing game has struggled so bad recently.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 10:28 am to rmnldr
Great post brotha! 
Posted on 7/14/18 at 10:54 am to rmnldr
Awesome take there!
Posted on 7/14/18 at 11:11 am to rmnldr
Thanks for the analysis mnldr. This was a great read! Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and will find both good and bad points of the write up. Don't let that discourage you from making another such detailed post.
Looking forward to your next one. ;)
Looking forward to your next one. ;)
Posted on 7/14/18 at 11:44 am to rmnldr
Very solid post rmnldr! Thanks for the analysis!
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:02 pm to C
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The #1 CB didn’t turn.
He looks at the WR's hips and turn his hips inward to continue his drop to his quarter of the field. It's very subtle (and bad technique) but it's the difference between being able to break on a curl and not.
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He continued back once the QB looked off to help in case the play to the right broke.
It's good that he was properly reading the QB's eyes but it's actually poor technique on his part and it worked out for him. Most DCs and secondary coaches (and I assume Aranda as well) would rather him play man-to-man in that situation to prevent the exact thing that happened from happening.
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I agree you could have made the throw but it wasn’t wide open.
Agree to disagree? I consider 5-6 yards of separation to be "wide open"
Thanks for the feedback
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:10 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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Route 1 would have been open if:
-the WR doesn’t raise his hands showing the DB that he is where they were hoping he would be. DB then adjusts.
-If it was one of the last reads instead of the first.
The curl route is the first read because it sets up the timing for every other route. The DB also has no idea what the route is even if he waves his hand. He could have easily run a quick hitch or curl and it also would have been open.
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Given the play call and coverage he made the right read, just needed 1 second more of patience.
We're looking at this play with 20/20 hindsight. Going through the progressions like he did, he did make the right read because he assumed (incorrectly and far too quickly) that his first and second reads were taken. He correctly diagnosed the third read and likely didn't feel confident in the 9 route or didn't consider it (this offense has some plays with the QB only reading one side of the field). Through his eyes and in the heat of the moment it was the right read.
Thanks for the feedback
Posted on 7/14/18 at 1:14 pm to rmnldr
Well done.
Like a few people have pointed out... The curl (#1) was wide open, and anybody who says the CB could've broken on it is right and wrong. If Brennan throws a bad ball (without velocity and into the middle of the field), yes, it could be a pick 6, but the ball needs to be put on the sideline shoulder of a big receiver and on time. That is the key, ON TIME, Brennan should know the route and see the separation and deliver the ball with anticipation to what is basically the back shoulder of the receiver before he breaks. It's something that is rare in HS and even in college, but anticipating the break and locating the ball is the "timing" everyone talks about. If the DB jumps the route on a big receiver and the ball is located properly, it's gonna lead to a missed tackle and additional yardage after the catch.
Like a few people have pointed out... The curl (#1) was wide open, and anybody who says the CB could've broken on it is right and wrong. If Brennan throws a bad ball (without velocity and into the middle of the field), yes, it could be a pick 6, but the ball needs to be put on the sideline shoulder of a big receiver and on time. That is the key, ON TIME, Brennan should know the route and see the separation and deliver the ball with anticipation to what is basically the back shoulder of the receiver before he breaks. It's something that is rare in HS and even in college, but anticipating the break and locating the ball is the "timing" everyone talks about. If the DB jumps the route on a big receiver and the ball is located properly, it's gonna lead to a missed tackle and additional yardage after the catch.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 2:28 pm to rmnldr
Burrow will start. Brennan is very over hyped. I’d feel comfortable with Mcmilian as QB2 just in case Burrow gets hurt because he’s similar in his mobility. Mcmilian and Burrow can scramble and designed runs can be used with these guys. Not with Brennan.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 11:07 pm to GeeOH
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This is you doubling down on dumb. There is nothing showing JB is "so far ahead" of anyone IN OUR SYSTEM
Has O held up a banner signed in blood saying JB is the best we have on the roster? No. If that's the only kind of proof that will satisfy you, then you'll just have to wait until the first snap to see what everyone else knows right now:
The writing is on the wall: JB is 100% going to start because everyone else looked like complete noobs in the spring game, which is why O hurried the frick up and grabbed a transfer QB despite already having a 3 way battle on the existing roster.
Do we have HD video of O swearing on a bible that JB is going to start? No. But we don't need that. All the QBs will compete. The other 3 will continue to largely stink it up. And the guy who is better now based on all available tape will still be better in August.
You will likely be dragged kicking and screaming to that conclusion because you apparently lack the ability to reason your way to it like almost everyone else.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:48 am to rmnldr
quote:Exactly, but it's not a curl, but a shorter 5-6yd hitch route.
The curl route is the first read because it sets up the timing for every other route.
As mentioned earlier, a deeper (actual) curl route 12-15yds would've better complimented the timing on the bend route (like sluggo by Y, not X).
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He could have easily run a quick hitch or curl and it also would have been open.
That is a hitch, 80 only drove 5yds.
I think MB skipped the read because it was risky vs a decent closer and likely unproductive on 2D-10.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:56 am to Mayhawman
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Exactly, but it's not a curl, but a shorter 5-6yd hitch route.
As mentioned earlier, a deeper (actual) curl route 12-15yds would've better complimented the timing on the bend route (like sluggo by Y, not X).
You're right. It's a hitch. My 3am mind must've thought it was longer and my 12pm mind didn't think to double check it.
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