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re: BR sports “LSU made that rise with the toughest schedule in college football

Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:13 pm to
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:13 pm to
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I don't see how you can look at Rick's behavior even as we speak in this thread and come to any other conclusion than he's an O hater.




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i like 99% of all lsu want O to win every lsu game he coaches in and hope he leaves lsu as the winningest coach in lsu history.-Rick



Yep, sure looks like he despises him.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 11:21 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:14 pm to
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it's so terrible, why has Ed struggled to better even just one of the LSU top 5 scoring offenses (Saban included).
Should be easy since they all suck


I doubt very seriously that O gives any of those offenses a second thought. He's got his job to do and that's what he's focused on.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:20 pm to
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He's shite all over O as much if not more than anyone on this board. Would rather cling to a lie for ten pages than concede a point.





Go up about 14 posts. The one where he said

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i like 99% of all lsu want O to win every lsu game he coaches in and hope he leaves lsu as the winningest coach in lsu history.



How is that dumping all over O and being an O hater?


Let me guess, he doesn't really mean it and he's just trolling. Am I right




Could you be any more disingenuous? You pick one post in ten thousand. Do you honestly want to hang your hat on that post?
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:24 pm to
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Could you be any more disingenuous?


You're the one saying he's done nothing but crap on O any chance he gets. I show you proof that that isn't the case. That's being disingenuous.


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Do you honestly want to hang your hat on that post?



He admitted he wants O to be successful. He's stated similar things to this before. What more do you want from the guy?



Looks like you choose not to believe it or accept it because you simply don't like the guy.





This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 11:40 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:39 pm to
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I doubt very seriously that O gives any of those offenses a second thought.
Hi Ben, hope all is well.
Of course he has to worry about his offense, but crazy for some to denigrate another one when your own hasn't exceeded it.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:45 pm to
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Could you be any more disingenuous?


You're the one saying he's done nothing but crap on O any chance he gets. I show you proof that that isn't the case. That's being disingenuous.


quote:
Do you honestly want to hang your hat on that post?


He admitted he wants O to be successful. He's stated similar things to what he said here before. What more do you want from the guy?



Looks like you choose not to believe it because you simply don't like the guy



I don't dislike Rick at all.


Do you understand that if you ignore 40 or 50 thousand posts to submit one post claiming the opposite of the physical evidence displayed by the poster for years that your credibility may be called into question?

So anyway I don't see a reason to continue our dialogue if you want to ask me to ignore Rick's history of bashing the current head coach.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:50 pm to
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Ben, hope all is well.
Of course he has to worry about his offense, but crazy for some to denigrate another one when your own hasn't exceeded it



I'm not in the habit of bashing Les at all and again I doubt that O goes around doing it either. I'm sure that he's busy with other things as well.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:56 pm to
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I don't see a reason to continue our dialogue if you want to ask me to ignore Rick's history of bashing the current head coach.




He just wished him success. What the heck?



He's said numerous times he wishes for O to be successful. He points out areas that need to be worked on but that doesn't mean he wants O to fail.

I don't understand why you don't at least accept that much from the guy. There must be a reason for it.


He also posted this in this very thread

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think its only the extreme that want O fired. i mostly see people saying exactly what ive been saying...
o is not above reproach. we have had talent both years.. the offense has sucked both years.. we took a step in the right direction from 2017-2018 and this year is the year we need to win the west or come as close as possible.

i dont want o fired


There it is in black and white. Two different examples in this thread alone of how he doesn't bash O, on the contrary wishes him success. He points out areas that need work but so do most other tiger fans. Is that against the rules now?

Sounds like someone who obviously hates O. I mean it's pretty obvious.

This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 2:06 am
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:04 am to
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This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:11 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:17 am to
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He's shite all over O as much 


stating objective facts about ed orgeron's tenure is in no way bashing. its called reality.

anything but blind loyalty is labeled as bashing O.
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Would rather cling to a lie


link....
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:19 am to
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What more do you want from the guy? 


blind loyalty to the OC and the HC while also bashing players and other lsu coaching staff.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:21 am to
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't understand why you don't at least accept that much from the guy.


because its not holding O above reproach and blaming every bad thing on everyone besides the HC and OC.

he thinks stating objective facts about O's tenure is bashing. that should tell you everything you need to know about his stance.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:29 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:26 am to
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He'll bullshite you for 30 pages over something we both know to be bullshite but he doesn't hate O at all. He'll call you an O lover


only a complete Moron would think his opinion om talent outweighs people that get paid to evaluate talent.

This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:29 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:27 am to
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Yeh his strength as a coach was his offense

oline
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13943 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:18 am to
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only a complete Moron would think his opinion om talent outweighs people that get paid to evaluate talent.


Who offered opinions? I gave you the FACTS of who played for LSU, who stayed but didn’t crack the lineup, and who didn’t pan out at all. You posted opinions and are still arguing that over the facts. Let me give it to you AGAIN.

25 offensive signees in 2015 & 2016
2 draft picks - one second round, one forth round
1 starter still on roster
Every other player was an UDFA, transfer to small schools (e.g. Abilene Christian), or is still at LSU but not starting.

But muh #2 class ranking. But muh opinions over those facts.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:31 am to
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la_birdman



This is what I told you right here.


blind loyalty to the OC and the HC while also bashing players and other lsu coaching staff



He'll lie like a dog and fling baseless accusations at you to try to bolster another baseless argument. He's an O hater and there's plenty of proof to back it up.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13943 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:43 am to
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first cut-" i know you gave me your diagnosis doctor but here are my thoughts"


RickDaddy - Claims he went to Duke.
Doesn’t know that players transferring to FCS schools is a fact, not an opinion.

Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13943 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:50 am to
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first cut-" i know you gave me your diagnosis doctor but here are my thoughts"


RickDaddy - Claims he went to Duke.
Doesn’t know that players not starting is a fact, not an opinion.

Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13943 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:51 am to
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first cut-" i know you gave me your diagnosis doctor but here are my thoughts"


RickDaddy - Claims he went to Duke.
Doesn’t know that players going undrafted is a fact, not an opinion.

Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13943 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:52 am to
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first cut-" i know you gave me your diagnosis doctor but here are my thoughts"


RickDaddy - Claims he went to Duke.
Doesn’t know that football magazine talent evaluations are opinions, not facts.

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