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Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:24 am to ehidal1
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I think he was saying he doubts we play that good of an OOC schedule in 1 season. And I agree. No chance of that happening
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Exactly.
That is not what you were saying on page one...
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As a fan, these are great games to watch. If you want to compete for and SEC and NC, you don't do this.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:26 am to thunderbird1100
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PAC-Ten teams like USC don't seem to need to make excuses like this.
Well no shite. They also play Pac-10 schedules, not SEC ones. There is a HUGE difference in the week in and week out physicality of games in those 2 conferences.
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Elite teams should schedule good OOC games overall, there is no excuse to pussy-out and play 3 or 4 gimmies.
I agree. But they shouldn't schedule 3 or 4 good teams either. There needs to be a balance.
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I don't consider WVU/BSU/USM/@Tulane to be a very tough OOC schedule.
It's tougher than most SEC OOCs would be-and that's who we're competing against. I'd actually like that schedule though. The original post had UNC instead of Southern Miss, so that's what I was responding to.
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All I have to say is you might be saying things differently if last year we went 12-1 (winning SECCG) and got left out of the NC Game because we played Troy, Tulane, North Texas and App State all at home.
I think the likelihood of that happening is not nearly as good as us either losing an OOC game one year, or being beat up and wind up losing an SEC game that we might not have otherwise.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:29 am to mlttiger
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yea to all the bitches out there saying that we should scedule weak OOC's b/c it helps us compete for a NC is bull shite... one of the only reasons we made it to the 07 NC was b/c we shite down the throats of a top 10 Virginia Tech team... if we don't play VT that year we prolly don't get into the NC game
Can you dumbasses not read? Who said we shouldn't play those games? Of course Virginia Tech was a great OOC game--I'd love to play 1 of those every year. But if we start scheduling 2 or 3, it's going to bite us in the arse. There needs to be a balance in the OOC scheduling--never too weak, never too strong.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:34 am to Hot Carl
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Well no shite. They also play Pac-10 schedules, not SEC ones. There is a HUGE difference in the week in and week out physicality of games in those 2 conferences.
This is a common cop out excuse. Their schedule is almost ALWAYS tougher than ours top to bottom. No doubt in my mind. The P10 is not way easier than our conference. They are a long established BCS Conference with many good programs and decent teams in it year in and year out. I'm not saying it's as tough as the SEC, but acting like it's a cake walk is simply being ignorant. Bottom line is if we schedule 3 or 4 patsies OOC, half our schedule ends up being complete crap because we still have to play Mississippi State and 1 or 2 more teams in the SEC around their caliber every year (crap, basically). USC makes sure half their schedule is not full of crap (70-80+ type of teams...out of 120).
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I agree. But they shouldn't schedule 3 or 4 good teams either. There needs to be a balance.
I don't think anyone wants to see 3-4 good BCS teams on the schedule. Just like what I mentioned earlier - Premier OOC game, 2 decent teams (mid major or BCS) and 1 gimmie. I think that should be pretty much the standard, especially in the SEC.
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It's tougher than most SEC OOCs would be-and that's who we're competing against. I'd actually like that schedule though. The original post had UNC instead of Southern Miss, so that's what I was responding to.
I realized that afterwards. But UNC isn't a possibility as we already have 3 OOC scheduled for 2010 and BSUI is talked about being added. Although I'd consider UNC possibly a worse team than BSU.
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I think the likelihood of that happening is not nearly as good as us either losing an OOC game one year, or being beat up and wind up losing an SEC game that we might not have otherwise
2004 Auburn probably thought that too.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:38 am to LSURulzSEC
quote:Try reading comprehension... I was saying as a fan you would love to see these games happen. But in the real world, it is suicide for your season if you want to compete for an SEC or NC. An SEC (especially with UF and UGA as 2 of your East opp) schedule is difficult enough. To add WV, UNC, and BSU in the same season is insane. I would like to see a UNC or WV type on the OOC schedule every year, but to think you will get all 3 is retarded.
That is not what you were saying on page one...
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:40 am to ehidal1
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ehidal1
I agree with what you're saying...at first I thought you were saying that those teams sucked for OOC games.
But, I def. agree that scheduling 2-3 teams like those on top of the reg. SEC sched. is ridiculous.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:44 am to RummelTiger
No problem. Like I said, I would love a UNC, WV, VT, or Oregon on the schedule every year. But the problem is the return trip and revenue lost from that lost home game. I thought adding the 12th game would allow ath depts to get that extra home/away series with a top opponent. However, it looks like most schools will just use it for a rent-a-win and easy gate money.
BTW Rummel, you have always had my favorite avatar. I am mesmerized everytime I look at it.
BTW Rummel, you have always had my favorite avatar. I am mesmerized everytime I look at it.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:47 am to RummelTiger
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I def. agree that scheduling 2-3 teams like those on top of the reg. SEC sched. is ridiculous
Aside from a buy-a-win, What good does it do for LSU to play these cupcakes. I would rather see them play better comp all year for the strength of schedule aspect of getting into the BCS Title game.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:48 am to ehidal1
To stay in the NC race with 1 loss (undefeated in SEC will almost always guarantee NC unless your named AUB), we really only need 1 solid OOC foe per year.
People scheduling more than 1 solid OOC, will greatly reduce our NC/SEC hopes. The SEC is tough enough as it is. I know it sucks to have to pay top $$ for essentially worthless tickets (LSU vs Tul/NW/etc..), but that is the best philosophy to win NCs.
People scheduling more than 1 solid OOC, will greatly reduce our NC/SEC hopes. The SEC is tough enough as it is. I know it sucks to have to pay top $$ for essentially worthless tickets (LSU vs Tul/NW/etc..), but that is the best philosophy to win NCs.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:51 am to dukke v
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I would rather see them play better comp all year for the strength of schedule aspect of getting into the BCS Title game.
We got to the NCG a couple of years ago with 2 loses and a weak OOC schedule.
So there's obviously a precedent.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:53 am to RummelTiger
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We got to the NCG a couple of years ago with 2 loses and a weak OOC schedule.
We got into the NC game with 2 losses b/c of scheduling 1 Strong OOC team.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:56 am to dukke v
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Aside from a buy-a-win, What good does it do for LSU to play these cupcakes.
$$$$$ and no return trip and lost home game revenue.
We need should play (for the fans mostly) a decent BCS conf team each year OOC. Whether that be Arizona, ASU, VT, Iowa...it really doesn't matter. However, most ignorant fans will complain because '(fill in the blank) is not a very good BCS school' will always come out of people's mouths, much like when we played Arizona. It is hard to predict teams when you schedule years in advance.
This post was edited on 6/28/09 at 11:58 am
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:58 am to STEVED00
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We got into the NC game with 2 losses b/c of scheduling 1 Strong OOC team.
Eh...debatable. Does VT make up for MTSU, Tulane or LA Tech?
Did it help, sure...but overall I'd say our OOC was weak that year.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:00 pm to STEVED00
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We got into the NC game with 2 losses b/c of scheduling 1 Strong OOC team
It goes both ways, because that same tough OOC opponent (LSU) kept Virginia Tech OUT of the BCSNC. I think this is the case more times than the one Auburn debate.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:01 pm to RummelTiger
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Eh...debatable. Does VT make up for MTSU, Tulane or LA Tech?
VT was a top 7 team at the end of the season. That victory against them vaulted us to the NC game and kept them out of it.
This post was edited on 6/28/09 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:03 pm to STEVED00
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That victory against them vaulted us to the NC game and kept them out of it.
I think the SECCG win vaulted us to the game, not the VT win.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:08 pm to ehidal1
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Try reading comprehension... I was saying as a fan you would love to see these games happen. But in the real world, it is suicide for your season if you want to compete for an SEC or NC. An SEC (especially with UF and UGA as 2 of your East opp) schedule is difficult enough. To add WV, UNC, and BSU in the same season is insane. I would like to see a UNC or WV type on the OOC schedule every year, but to think you will get all 3 is retarded.
I have complete reading and comprehension skills, its you that is severly lacking and that needs to quit beating around the bush and say what you mean the first time instead of one post here and one post there later in the thread and that is exactly what you did...did I say we would get all 3 in one season? No...do I think its suicide like you and some others, no...suicide would be UWV, Virginia Tech and OU or Texas or USC...all top teams from BCS conferences...
but Boise, UNC and UWV would not be suicide IMO...
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:09 pm to ehidal1
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much like when we played Arizona. It is hard to predict teams when you schedule years in advance.
I agree with this 110%!!!! LSU is BIG-BOY football. Lets go see WHO will do a home-and-home. Texas, Oklahoma,USC,Nebraska, Michigan,Clemson!!!!!
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:09 pm to RummelTiger
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I think the SECCG win vaulted us to the game, not the VT win.
The VT game put us at the TOP of the discussion of 2-loss teams to play for NC Game. We play a Sun Belt team instead and we're looking at the Sugar Bowl.
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