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re: BH "still just a true sophomore QB"
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:00 pm to RedTigerRulz
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:00 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Great....all well and fine.....then I would think we need to stop window shopping/impulse buying and actually recruit QBs that fit our scheme instead of just recruiting a great spread QB because he's a 4/5 star athlete.
The problem is that even most Prostyle qb recruits don't run a prostyle offense in highschool so you run into the same problem of them doing something they've never done without the athleticism to take off if the play doesn't develop like a DT qb would be able to.
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Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:27 pm to navy
Funny how the narrative on this board changes.
All we heard here all summer is: "Harris is learning the playbook! He's ready! He's gonna break out this year!"
We see the same old stuff with handcuffing the quarterback and running into 10 man fronts and now it's:
"Oh, Harris is young! He's just a TRUE SOPHOMORE!"
I guess next year it will be: "Oh, he's young! He's just a junior!"
All we heard here all summer is: "Harris is learning the playbook! He's ready! He's gonna break out this year!"
We see the same old stuff with handcuffing the quarterback and running into 10 man fronts and now it's:
"Oh, Harris is young! He's just a TRUE SOPHOMORE!"
I guess next year it will be: "Oh, he's young! He's just a junior!"
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:32 pm to timlan2057
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Oh, Harris is young! He's just a TRUE SOPHOMORE!"
Coaches try to protect very young and inexperienced qbs making their 2nd career start,on the road, at a ranked conf opponent. A young qb having a horrible start to a season can stick with him the entire year. Were you not around for JLEE in 2008?
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:42 pm to Salmon
quote:Then why not recruit a QB that ran the same type of Offense in HS that LSU does, instead of the SPRH "Express Conversion" BS that Les Miles loves and seems to think is an effective method to produce an efficient Offense..................
Harris HS offense was nothing like LSUs offense, so the learning curve was much higher
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:59 pm to sjmabry
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Fast forward 2 years, and Harris will be more NFL ready due to our pro-style offense vs a spread QB.
This must be sarcasm....pretty sure one needs to do a little more than turn around and toss the ball on the toss dive (i hate that play, especially when i see 7th graders run it) to be NFL ready
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:46 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Coaches try to protect very young and inexperienced qbs making their 2nd career start,on the road, at a ranked conf opponent. A young qb having a horrible start to a season can stick with him the entire year. Were you not around for JLEE in 2008?
We just beat Miss St. because they missed a fg after having received a full retard delay of game penalty. If they had any common sense or any other kicker in the SEC we'd be out of playoff contention. Were you not around Saturday?
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:04 am to navy
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BH "still just a true sophomore"
So is Fournette, Jamal Adams, Malachi Dupre......
I know this is directed at the QB position but hey.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 2:00 am
Posted on 9/16/15 at 6:14 am to sabanisarustedspoke
Wait you think 52 yard kicks are made on the regular in cfb?pro kickers miss then 50% of the time.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:48 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Again,they are the outliers. Most young and inexperienced qbs don't have extremely productive seasons. You also have to take into account which conference those young qbs play in because the sec as a whole has more nfl talent on the defensive side of the ball. It's easier to be a young and inexperienced qb in the ACC or Big 10 because you don't face as many defenses that have lots of nfl talent on the defense.
Ugh.
Now the standard is "extremely productive?" And now we have to consider their conference? What's next, the weather? Natural grass or artificial turf? Early game times or late night? Jesus.
I'm just saying that young and inexperienced QBs can play well and most rational fans know it's true. Of course Manziel and Winston are outliers, but many coaches play inexperienced QBs and allow them to run their full offense and throw the ball. And they do it effectively.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:39 am to atltiger6487
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Now the standard is "extremely productive?" And now we have to consider their conference? What's next, the weather? Natural grass or artificial turf? Early game times or late night? Jesus.
I used extremely productive because the names you used were extremely productive at a young age.
Im sorry you don't realize that it's harder to be a productive qb in the sec than it is in the big 10 and acc. The big 10 consists of 2 teams that have legit defensive talent.
I can't help that you can't see that young and inexperienced qbs that are productive are the outliers and not the norm.
You mentioned Sims and AJ McCarron at bama.
Sims was a 5th year senior and Bama changed their offense to up tempo to take advantage of his athleticism.
AJ McCarron wasn't really productive until his 4th year(redshirt junior)at Alabama.
His 3rd year in a prostyle offense he had all of 16 tds and 5 ints. 7 of those tds came against Vandy and Georgia Southern.
Outside of JM who are these young and inexperienced qbs that are having success in the sec?
In the last 6 years JM was the only qb that was all sec that was younger than a redshirt Sophomore.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 8:42 am
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:43 am to sjmabry
No pro teams run toss dives
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:47 am to atltiger6487
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I'm just saying that young and inexperienced QBs can play well and most rational fans know it's true.
I don't care what football ignorant "Fans" think. People that understand football know that young and inexperienced qbs that play really well and are really productive ARE THE OUTLIERS. Especially running a prostyle offense
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:50 am to Rickdaddy4188
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AJ McCarron wasn't really productive until his 4th year(redshirt junior)at Alabama.
Wow. Just. Damn. Wow.
AJ McCarron was a first year starter in 2011 (sophomore).
219-328
66.8%
2634 yards
8.0 YPA
16 TD
5 INT
147.3 Rating
Oh, and they won the National Championship.
If you can't acknowledge that this was productive, then you've got some serious blinders on.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 8:52 am
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:01 am to atltiger6487
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AJ McCarron was a first year starter in 2011 (sophomore).
His third year at Bama. 16tds-5ints. 7 tds of which were against Vandy and Georgia southern.
Jordan Jefferson's 2009 season stats were very close to AJ'S 2011 stats. So are you saying JJ'S 2009 season was productive?
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 9:06 am
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:05 am to Rickdaddy4188
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AJ McCarron was a first year starter in 2011 (sophomore).
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His third year at Bama. 16tds-5ints. 7 tds of which were against Vandy and Georgia southern.
so now you're nit-picking McCarron's stats. You're a lost cause on this issue.
I'm done. You can have the last word.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:12 am to atltiger6487
quote:It's called reality. 7 of his 16tds came against 2 shite teams. If AJ was productive in 2011 then Jordan Jefferson was productive in 2009 and I'd be willing to bet you don't think he was.
now you're nit-picking McCarron's stats.
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You're a lost cause on this issue.
Holy shite. Says the guy with the opinion that goes against every single coach,scout and analyst. Young and inexperienced qbs being productive are the outliers. This is common knowledge for any with marginal football knowledge. Can a young and inexperienced qb be productive? Sure but there is reason you see/here coaches,scouts, and analysts being wowed by young and inexperienced qbs producing well and it's because it's not the norm.
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Oh, and they won the National Championship.
Ha ha. Yeah it wasn't because of the greatest defense in cfb history. AJ wasn't even the 6th best player on the offense in 2011.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:51 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Rickdaddy4188
Little Rickey. Am I going to have to come spank your butt again. STFU
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:35 am to say when
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Little Rickey. Am I going to have to come spank your butt again. STFU
In what reality have you ever been right? You're routinely the most down voted poster on this site. Also,I'm far from little.
I don't even understand why you're a fan of lsu. You hate the most successful coach in lsu history.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 10:38 am
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:37 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Wait you think 52 yard kicks are made on the regular in cfb?pro kickers miss then 50% of the time.
Nope, but 46 yarders are and that's not the point. You are blindly defending Miles at all costs when he spent the entire second half of the game trying not to lose and leaving the outcome of the game in the hands of the opposing team's kicker. If you don't see a problem in that then I am really worried about our fanbase
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:40 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Also,I'm far from little.
Another big bad internet dude.
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