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re: Best Running Back LSU will face all year in your opinion?

Posted on 5/4/11 at 10:34 pm to
Posted by TigerMan327
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 10:34 pm to
Your center weighs like 260 pounds.. I dont think our Dline will have a hard time penetrating and messin up the run game like fairley did. Fairley had such a good game against yal because your oline was undersized. And your Oline is worse this year.. But i agree, LMJ is a badass running back, his stats show it. Dyer is not as good as him.

Trent Richardson is definently the most talented back we will face next season, his stats werent as good as some. But then again, they werent sharing carries with another RB who had just won the heisman the year before
Posted by EricB
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 11:11 pm to
I think the problem with Oregon fans analyzing the LSU situation is this: They don't realize that, unlike Oregon in the Pac 10, three or four different SEC teams could have been in that game if one mistake had not been made, or one field goal not been missed. You played Auburn because when all the dust cleared, they were the last man standing, and that doesn't mean that had last year been played again that you would be playing Auburn again. You think that your performance against Auburn equals improved performance against other SEC teams because Auburn won the SEC last year. This isn't true at all. Auburn won the SEC from having an amazing offense, which didn't really show up in the Oregon game. Your defense was very vulnerable to teams that could power the ball up the middle, which probably leads to a lopsided victory had you played Alabama or Arkansas even. When push comes to shove, Oregon didn't deserve their finish in the top 10 last year, because Auburn only cares about winning. Auburn beat the best and the shittiest teams by very few points at times last year, and as long as the won, they didn't care. For all we know, you might have lost to Mississippi State (although this is unlikely, I can't think of any other team in the Pac 10 that would have beat them except maybe Stanford).
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 11:18 pm to
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I hope not Roger. I really think you need a guy like Fairley to be that productive against our run game - also really bad turf. Fairley makes everyone around him better because the defense is keyed on him. I think LSU will do well against the run but hopefully not as well as Auburn.


Depends on how the D line shakes out for LSU. Its promising now, and could be better than last. Or not.

Probably will not know until we play Oregon.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13140 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 11:40 pm to
You really think the center is 260 pounds? We also have a 273 pound linebacker and a 210 pound DT, per the roster. It must be bad player evaluation.

Our oline goes like this: Asper (325), Weems (302), Cody (296), York (286), Armstong (275) and average 297. Armstrong is currently a redshirt frosh and will gain weight this offseason. He will likely play at 285. Since he is the strongest and the quickest he will be fine at 285, especially since the oline pulls the center on almost every play. The backups are Benyard (323), Clanton (294), Grasu (278) and Golpashin (275) and average 293. However, Grasu is a true frosh right now and will undoubtedly gain weight. No one actually thinks Benyard is 323 and closer to 340 (he is a mammoth of a man).

Becasue we are a spread team, our line will always be a little lighter. However, our oline goes against your dline and your dline will not be heavier.

Last year was about talent. Our three seniors were 2* kids. These new ones are more athletic but will need to gel.
This post was edited on 5/5/11 at 12:30 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 11:49 pm to
Auburn D line really beat down Oregon's offensive line, but the Ducks did a pretty good job of passing. It wasn't just Fairly. I believe Oregon will have to establish the pass and be really successful at it in order to run.

Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13140 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 11:53 pm to
EricB, the problem with your post is that I've heard this all a million times. Auburn fans raided our forums and called our sports radio talk shows and told us how small we were and that we had never faced a 250 pound quarterback. Nevermind that none of it was based on fact (I mean forget that we played Locker and Luck). They looked at our roster weights and thought our DTs were 250 pounds and our ends 230 while never thinking that maybe the weights were from thier junior year in high school. Apparently their 4.4 forties were more legit because they were ran in the southeast and all our players were going to be broken in half.

Auburn was telling us that they were going to score 70 points and that Darron Thomas would be broken in half.

So, excuse me if I will have to disagree with you. Last year Stanford was a onside kick away from winning and going to the NCG. Stanford would've actually matched up very well. SC lost 3 games by a total of 7 points. There was less parity last year in the Pac but any given year there could be a three way tie.

This post was edited on 5/5/11 at 12:24 am
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13140 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 12:13 am to
From what the stats are telling me, Auburn made all the SEC offensive lines look bad. You guys fared little better. Did LSU really get 243 yards against Auburn? Damn, you guys couldn't even exploit that secondary. Wow. I just looked that up.

We did the second best in defense against Auburn. Only Miss St. and that was Newton's first game against an FBS team. Wow...

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283026 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 12:30 am to
Yeah, LSU's passing game was just awful last year.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 5:27 am to
quote:

We did the second best in defense against Auburn.


Conversely, Auburn's defense wasn't exactly exploited by your offense, and that was with last year's WR's and OL.

As I said before, the playing surface at the BCS title game was slippery, and played a role in how low-scoring that game was.

If LSU had met Oregon in a bowl game last year, I'd have liked our chances. I really like our chances in the first game of the year for both teams next season.

I think we lost less, and will improve more. But we'll see soon enough!

Posted by golf teaching pro
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
604 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 6:02 am to
Trent Richardson! I spoke to a guy who is rehabing him from an injury he sustained when Patrick Peterson tackled him last season. The guy said he would rather tackle a deer than Trent, he said the guy Is a specimen.
Posted by bojabu
Member since Sep 2010
1275 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:07 am to
Remember guys, Rocky was much smaller than the Russian, and Deion Sanders was a twirp too!
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34323 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:56 am to
By most talent:

Richardson
Dyer
Davis
James

By biggest threat (accounting for total offense):

James
Davis
Richardson
Dyer (Auburn won't be the same this year)
Posted by JKtiger4ever
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2011
357 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 12:03 pm to
I agree with this. I think richardson is the best all around back, but LaMichael is probably the most dangerous due to the explosive offense he's in
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 12:24 pm to
Threat to put up yards and score points.....

James, Richardson, and Davis

Dyer is great but dont know how effective hell be next year.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13140 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:55 pm to
At the end of the day, both teams played on the same field. I think you could make a real easy case that Oregon is affected more by a slippery field. The run a defensive scheme that is all over the place and the offensive scheme is even more wide open. Auburn actually runs a lot between the tackles. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Oregon's D was very good last year.

LMJ will be 100% against LSU as opposed to 75% at the end of the year.


Should be a great game.
Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
Member since Nov 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 2:01 pm to
Richardson FTW, GAME OVER
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

At the end of the day, both teams played on the same field


Which why I said a low scoring game. Meaning for both teams.

quote:

LMJ will be 100% against LSU as opposed to 75% at the end of the year.


That's terrific. Doesn't change the fact that you will line up with a new OL and new WR, and only return 12 of your top 20 tacklers from a year ago.

I honestly believe we'll have a significant experience factor in that first game, and we're familiar with the field to boot.

And it's not a slippery field.


Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13140 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 4:56 pm to
There will be an experience difference in LSU's favor. I believe with Asper 24 starts, York 22 starts and Weems 8 starts, and Cody 1 start credit but 2 years as key backup, will not make this a fresh online. Also, Oregon will use a lot of double tight end set with two stud senior tight ends that the LMJ will get more yards than in the NCG.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20292 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 5:38 pm to
We play double te sets too. Except we will use them as road plows.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34323 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

Also, Oregon will use a lot of double tight end set with two stud senior tight ends that the LMJ will get more yards than in the NCG.


The strength of our dline is at DE. We have lots of speed at the position.

You will know the name Sam Montgomery by the end of the game. Ken Adams starts on the other side and has some speed, too. Rotating in will be Lavar Edwards and Keke Mingo (most speed of all).

In short, these guys are great at getting around the corners and have the speed to pursue to the edges.

Not a good matchup for Oregon, especially not if the plan is to contain Montgomery with a TE.
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