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re: Ben Wilkerson A Major Plus For LSU
Posted on 3/23/10 at 12:28 pm to fidebo69
Posted on 3/23/10 at 12:28 pm to fidebo69
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Oct. 31, 2004 BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) - LSU center Ben Wilkerson will miss the remainder of the 2004 season with a ruptured tendon in his left knee. Wilkerson was injured in the fourth quarter of LSU's 24-7 win over Vanderbilt on Saturday. He was expected to have surgery to repair the patella tendon on Monday. Wilkerson, a senior, has started 41 games at LSU and is one of the top centers in the country.
I was at this game
Ben was great for LSU and a true Tiger.
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 12:29 pm to aglandry
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-Line coach Greg Studrawa has leaned on Wilkerson throughtout spring practice to help conduct drills
Just a thought to throw out there.....kinda like the Billy Gonzales thing coming in to "help" out with the passing game. Ben has been brought in to "help" out with the o-line. One of two things comes to mind....#1 is Miles basically picking replacements for Crowton & Studrawa having them come into the program, get the feel of it, & be ready to take over after either of the two fail? OR #2 Why, if we are PAYING these guys (Crowton & Studrawa) to HEAD the offense & the o-line, do we have to PAY others (although I understand Ben is a GA who gets paid little if anything) to get the job done? Does your boss offer to hire an "assitant" for you when you don't do your job, somebody who will come in & basically mop up your messes & do YOUR job?
Whatever pans out for any of these guys, I can tell you, I feel a LOT more confident having a safety net & a plan B "coach" for those two.
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
Posted on 3/23/10 at 12:55 pm to aglandry
Big Ben...one of my favorite Tiger OL ever.
Welcome back, BB!
Welcome back, BB!
Posted on 3/23/10 at 12:58 pm to TexTgrTed
hell yeah! 
Posted on 3/23/10 at 1:04 pm to OldManRiver
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He got hurt on the 2nd to last play against Vandy when we had the ball and up 24-7. For some reason taking a knee wasn't an option, we had to run it
Better hope the Sabanistas don't see this...they still believe Coach Miles is to blame for Ben's 2004 injury.
Guess he caused Matt Mauck's '02 season to end early as well, 'cause their beloved $aban couldn't have had anything to do with that either.
Posted on 3/23/10 at 1:13 pm to TexTgrTed
I had an accounting class with Ben. Very smart cat. He did very well in the class and always would give you tidbits of what was going on at practice, etc.
Posted on 3/23/10 at 1:26 pm to SDTiger15
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SDTiger15
where did you get that pic! only good thing about gymnastics...
I bet when stud leaves next year, Ben will get the job...book it...
This post was edited on 3/23/10 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 3/23/10 at 1:36 pm to aglandry
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I think Wilkerson will have a positive effect on both the O-Line and D-Line coaches and will be the catalyst that turns the performance of both lines around.
I have to ask why. This is about the 50th thread saying Wilkerson has been added and will turn the line around. Besides being a former Tiger (and I love Big Ben as much as anyone) what makes everyone think he will be such a great GA?
Not flaming or anything, just seriously asking.
Posted on 3/23/10 at 1:36 pm to aglandry
big ben has been making some waves that is for sure
Posted on 3/23/10 at 1:42 pm to TIGERFANZZ
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....#1 is Miles basically picking replacements for Crowton & Studrawa having them come into the program, get the feel of it, & be ready to take over after either of the two fail?
I don't get this line of thinking at all. Why would you hire the "assistant" of the guy who failed who has never had that job before. BG has never been an OC and Ben has never been an OL coach. If Crowton and Strud struggle again how will people react if we replace them with thier understudy? I'm guessing not well.
Posted on 3/23/10 at 1:47 pm to Suntiger
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what makes everyone think he will be such a great GA
I think because people remember him as being a hard worker & an excellent leader-2 things that NOBODY sees from the current clown/coach Studrawa. I sit on the West sidelines & can see what is going on whent he defense is on the field. Sturawa is sitting around doing NOTHING & his offensive linemen are gazing up into the stars. That is FACT. I think having ANYONE, especially someone like Ben Wilkerson who is known to be a top notch lineman, who is SEC battle tested, who was the BEST at his position, & who has an EXTREMELY solid work ethic, excites people. Really & truly, I think almost anyone could have come in & they would be greeted with optimism. Studrawa is a joke, he can't develop what his HC called "the most talented O-line he's ever been around" into a middle of the pack SEC unit. It is time someone came in to breathe new life into a VERY VERY sore spot on this LSU team-both statistically & fan wise. And it doesn't hurt that he's a Tiger & most of us here got to see him play & are excited about having an LSU guy coming in & helping out. Just because he's Ben Wilkerson doesn't mean he can coach but we all know Studrawa can't, so what do we have to loose on optimism?
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
Posted on 3/23/10 at 1:55 pm to Suntiger
This is just "food for thought" but it does hold some weight. No, Gonzales has never been an OC before BUT he has made a name for himself as an up & coming young coach that will probably be getting a chance to earn a chance as an OC somewhere. No, I don't like the idea of hiring an untested OC but the "tested" one we have now sure isn't blowing the doors off of his opposition. As far as Ben goes, he's apparently looking to get into the coaching profession & while hiring an unproven OC is a bit more risky, I don't think too too many people would be all that upset if Ben was hired to coach O-line next year.
I guess it boils down to my way of dealing with COach Miles not gettting rid of Crowton & Studrawa. I guess I am thinking of rationale & hoping that maybe he has a Plan B in effect for next year if things don't go well, at least having these 2 guys there would make transition easier. It is apparent that Coach Miles does not believe Crowton can do the job without someone to help him, same with Studrawa. Either way, I just want the Tigers to win, win baby win!!!
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
I guess it boils down to my way of dealing with COach Miles not gettting rid of Crowton & Studrawa. I guess I am thinking of rationale & hoping that maybe he has a Plan B in effect for next year if things don't go well, at least having these 2 guys there would make transition easier. It is apparent that Coach Miles does not believe Crowton can do the job without someone to help him, same with Studrawa. Either way, I just want the Tigers to win, win baby win!!!
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
Posted on 3/23/10 at 1:56 pm to Suntiger
He had a rep for being a hard working, very technically sound player, and was also a great leader in the locker room. Will he definitely be a great coach? Who knows? But all of those attributes certainly help make a case.
Posted on 3/23/10 at 1:57 pm to TIGERFANZZ
Ben being there is a great thing. He's a mustang......
Posted on 3/23/10 at 2:02 pm to TIGERFANZZ
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Just a thought to throw out there.....kinda like the Billy Gonzales thing coming in to "help" out with the passing game. Ben has been brought in to "help" out with the o-line. One of two things comes to mind....#1 is Miles basically picking replacements for Crowton & Studrawa having them come into the program, get the feel of it, & be ready to take over after either of the two fail? OR #2 Why, if we are PAYING these guys (Crowton & Studrawa) to HEAD the offense & the o-line, do we have to PAY others (although I understand Ben is a GA who gets paid little if anything) to get the job done? Does your boss offer to hire an "assitant" for you when you don't do your job, somebody who will come in & basically mop up your messes & do YOUR job?
Great points.
My concern is why are we having to fix so many things?
Defense two years ago.
Offense now.
Posted on 3/23/10 at 2:25 pm to TIGERFANZZ
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No, Gonzales has never been an OC before BUT he has made a name for himself as an up & coming young coach that will probably be getting a chance to earn a chance as an OC somewhere. No, I don't like the idea of hiring an untested OC but the "tested" one we have now sure isn't blowing the doors off of his opposition.
you know something, every big time coach has been given an opportunity somewhere, I cant stand it when people say "he's not proven" hell, I dont know the guy, but at some point you have to give someone an opportunity that has earned it, or if you have faith in that person...all these managers in offices worked their way up, same with teachers to being principals and superintendents, its all over...give opportunity to whom deserve it and let life happen...sometimes you get proven wrong and sometimes you get proven right but at least the opportunity is given to the deserving or talented...
Again, not saying Gonzo is that guy b/c i dont know him. but Meyer didnt promote him for a reason, then again, he wouldnt have taken him with him from the last three jobs if he was bad either...so, hell...$4 mill, make a decision, its what miles is paid to do...
Posted on 3/23/10 at 2:26 pm to Tiger_in_Texas
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My concern is why are we having to fix so many things?
Defense two years ago.
Offense now.
Pelini left, and Miles made a mistake, which he quickly realized and fixed.
OC is a little tougher-maybe he doesn't know about GC's history of decline, and there were no indications in 2007 that it was anything but good, and in 2008, GC got to play the you dismissed RP card. After last year, I think Les knew he had a problem, but from what I (and others) have heard, was not offered the $$$ to fix the OC problem in the same fashion as he did the DC situation. BG, Frank Wilson and Ensminger are all bandaids until something can be done. Remember that BG was apparently given serious consideration for the OC spot at Florida, so he may be closer to being ready than some give credit for.
Posted on 3/23/10 at 2:39 pm to TigerFan55555
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you know something, every big time coach has been given an opportunity somewhere, I cant stand it when people say "he's not proven" hell, I dont know the guy, but at some point you have to give someone an opportunity that has earned it, or if you have faith in that person
Signed,
Bradley Dale Peveto and
Doug Mallory
People have to be given a chance, but if you are at the top of the heap, you shouldn't be the one gambling on unproven prospects, but poaching smaller school's OC/DC. ie, getting Bo Pelini who had previously been at OU & Nebraska.
Posted on 3/23/10 at 2:40 pm to Commando
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Remember that BG was apparently given serious consideration for the OC spot at Florida, so he may be closer to being ready than some give credit for.
That's what has me thinking, all along since the hiring, that maybe Miles saw the writing on the wall-Crowton=FAIL & Gonzales= up & coming coach who will be an OC somewhere & soon. So why not snatch him up, bring him in & get him into the system-& away from any other potential hirings, see how he handles himself & then when the obvious happens-Crowton=FAIL, you have the hot & upcoming offensive guy sitting on your sideline, ready to take over with a smooth transition. The talk around the team is that all the offensive guys love him & he is really making his presence felt in the gameplan. Who knows? The only thing I do know is, I am open to ALL options when it comes to getting some "life" into LSU's offense. And what does Miles have to lose? If Crowton fails, then everybody wants Coach Miles' head for it, he won't be fired next year but at least with Gonzales, he will have something new & exciting to offer as a replacement. No doubt about it, Gonzales will be an OC somewhere in the SEC in the near future, why not grab him up now & make the transition smooth, that is unless you expect Crowton to have success this year.
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
Posted on 3/23/10 at 2:44 pm to TIGERFANZZ
quote:Yea because no other teams have WR/Passing Game coaches or GA's on staff. I think you are trying too hard to read the tea leaves. We have the same amount of coaches on staff as every other SEC school. That number is regulated by the NCAA.
It is apparent that Coach Miles does not believe Crowton can do the job without someone to help him, same with Studrawa.
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