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re: Beating Bama will impact their program

Posted on 11/2/07 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89640 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 4:05 pm to
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Well, that's not saying much. Were you in court or just visiting? I haven't seen him since maybe the Chitlin Cookin. Is he thin and svelte as ever?


I was in Court. Nobody is going to mistake him for Calista Flockhart, but he looks good.

Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21974 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 4:07 pm to
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Ya'll could easily finish 8-4 this year. Didn't Bama go 6-6 last year? and 3-9 in 03 and 6-6 in 04?


I don't understand your point...

Are you saying we have sucked lately... Is that suppose to be news?

That is why we hired Nick, because he has proved he could take a losing program to a winner.

The point I was making before in my last post was about everyone talking about Saban sucking because he lost to UAB.

When it wasn't him that threw 4 interceptions and fumbled the ball 5 times in that game...

Geeze how can anyone expect to even beat North Texas School for the crippled and Blind when you have that many turn overs.
To be fair there was only 6 turnovers because LSU recovered 3 of the 5 fumbles. I was at the game my nephew played for UAB.

Personally I don't care if you guys hate Saban... I don't like him myself. When he said " How many times do I have to say this, I am not going to be the coach at Alabama" I was over wanting to have him as the coach. Then he ended up being our coach..
It has made me not care for him very much. If he does as much for us as he did for LSU then I might be able to forget about it.

Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
20014 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 4:08 pm to
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because he has proved he could take a losing program to a winner


The Dolphins beg to differ.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12505 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 4:11 pm to
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When it wasn't him that threw 4 interceptions and fumbled the ball 5 times in that game


You are missing the point. That wasn't Saban committing all those turnovers; it was the players Saban was coaching -- just like the players Saban will be coaching tomorrow againt LSU and in a couple of weeks against La. Tech. The point is that even with Saban coaching, crappy players (like y'all's, at the moment) can and do play like crap. And when they do, they can even lose to really shaky teams like UAB or La. Tech. So it's not very reasonable to rule out the possibility of a loss to La. Tech, and it certainly makes no sense to rule it out because Saban is there.

Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21974 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 4:11 pm to
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The Dolphins beg to differ.


LSU fans when honest don't
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12505 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 4:12 pm to
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That is why we hired Nick, because he has proved he could take a losing program to a winner.


True, but that program was LSU. He has not proven that he could take any losing program and turn it into a winner on that scale.

Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21974 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 4:23 pm to
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You are missing the point. That wasn't Saban committing all those turnovers; it was the players Saban was coaching -- just like the players Saban will be coaching tomorrow againt LSU and in a couple of weeks against La. Tech. The point is that even with Saban coaching, crappy players (like y'all's, at the moment) can and do play like crap.


Any given Saturday just about anything can happen...
Even coaches who have teams with GREAT talent can lose to teams that don't have it.

Look at USC vs Stanford.
Look at LSU vs Kentucky. BTW I know you guys think Kentucky is better than they are but after they lose 2 more games you will realize they aren't.

Before you say same for BAMA.. I have never said we were great, I looked at the schedule and the team we were returning and saw us as a 7-5 to 8-4 team. Being a long time fan do I want us to win more than that? Of course.
Do I think we can win more than that yes. We can beat LSU, MSU, La Tech and Auburn... Will we I doubt it.
We can also lose to LSU, MSU and Auburn... If we have 5 or 6 turnovers we can lose to La Tech too.
Which is the more likely scenario? We will probably lose to LSU you guys have too much talent on the field
We should beat MSU... They have played some good games and it could be close.
We will beat La. Tech.
Auburn game can go either way. We have lost the last 5 but that means nothing this year. The games are always close with few exceptions.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11834 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 4:39 pm to
I love all the:

What if...
Could of...
i wouldn't be surprised if...

topic lately.

Before Kentucky there were topics like what if we win out then lose the SECCG...

Before all of theat crap is really a consideration, lets worry about what happens tomorrow....

Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21974 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 4:47 pm to
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True, but that program was LSU. He has not proven that he could take any losing program and turn it into a winner on that scale.


We will see....
Posted by TS
Member since Oct 2005
12993 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 4:49 pm to
You can tell when pressure is on Alabama when they try to pretend there is no pressure on them and they try to tell you they expect to lose. They know this loss will pretty much destroy the Saban mystique in Louisiana once and for all.
This post was edited on 11/2/07 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Lukes
Member since Oct 2007
65 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 5:33 pm to
You are wrong. I can tell you without a doubt that the BOT did not expect big things this year or next. Saban was hired to rebuild the program and that's not something that can be done simply by hiring a coach. The BOT member I talked to before the season started was hoping for 6-7 wins this year.

There are idiot fans out there who would disagree, but the folks that make the decision had realistic expectations.

Luke
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89640 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 6:42 pm to
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Saban sucking because he lost to UAB.


No one on this board takes the position (to my knowledge) that your coach cannot coach. He was a 75% winning coach while he was here, coached our team to SEC championships and a BCS championship. All I have ever said (and most people say in their own way) about him, in that regard, is that he is not a miracle worker. In the right circumstances, he can be successful. But simply hiring him DOES NOT guarantee anything. He didn't win the Big-10 at MSU, he didn't go to the playoffs with the Dolphins, and he had a nice season at Toledo, but he was only there one year.

We use UAB as an example of a loss that should NEVER happen. It was worse than your boy Dubose losing to La Tech (twice). (I mean, we have played La Tech, Louisiana-Monroe, and Louisiana-Lafayette a total of 39 times, losing only one, to Tech in 1904). It's is used to describe a coach that cannot work miracles (except for that one time in Lexington, and that is considered divine intervention).

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Personally I don't care if you guys hate Saban... I don't like him myself. When he said " How many times do I have to say this, I am not going to be the coach at Alabama" I was over wanting to have him as the coach.


At least you guys have the benefit of seeing the ugliest he can be up front. Enjoy it while you can.
Posted by TigersWon
Alabama
Member since Jun 2007
1434 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 6:52 pm to
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You're a complete fricking idiot if you think we lose to La. Tech/


Won't be the 1st time you lost to LaTech
Posted by BigMC
Member since Dec 2005
1846 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 6:56 pm to
Its ONE fricking game. doubt it will have a serious impact on either program other than bowl posititon/championship position. to say the entire future of the program rides on this game is crazy.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21974 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 7:10 pm to
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No one on this board takes the position (to my knowledge) that your coach cannot coach. He was a 75% winning coach while he was here, coached our team to SEC championships and a BCS championship. All I have ever said (and most people say in their own way) about him, in that regard, is that he is not a miracle worker. In the right circumstances, he can be successful. But simply hiring him DOES NOT guarantee anything. He didn't win the Big-10 at MSU, he didn't go to the playoffs with the Dolphins, and he had a nice season at Toledo, but he was only there one year. We use UAB as an example of a loss that should NEVER happen. It was worse than your boy Dubose losing to La Tech (twice). (I mean, we have played La Tech, Louisiana-Monroe, and Louisiana-Lafayette a total of 39 times, losing only one, to Tech in 1904). It's is used to describe a coach that cannot work miracles (except for that one time in Lexington, and that is considered divine intervention).


Thanks for having a reasonable discussion. I like fanspeek as much as the next guy but every once in a while I enjoy actually discussing football and such.

I don't think he is a miracle worker. then again we don't need one. We needed a good X's & O's guy who can recruit well. We got the upgrade we needed and I look forward to some good hard fought games against LSU in the future.

BTW "Cholley Mc" was my favorite LSU coach of all time. "He ain't nothing but a winner"
Posted by ST.TAMMANYTIGER
covington(Only banned twice)
Member since Mar 2004
7798 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 8:57 pm to
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Alabama was picked by the national media to go either 7-5 or 8-4 this year.


USC was picked by the national media to win it all. So much for the national media.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89640 posts
Posted on 11/2/07 at 10:01 pm to
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Thanks for having a reasonable discussion. I like fanspeek as much as the next guy but every once in a while I enjoy actually discussing football and such.


I'm one of those guys that if you don't want to hear the truth, don't ask. I do bleed Purple and Gold and I do think we're going to win them all. However, I'm realistic about biases, and I just plain don't like your coach, and for that matter, I don't like Alabama (with exceptions, once gone from T-Town, I was a big fan of Derrick Thomas, and remain a fan of Shaun Alexander and Sylvester Croom). When it gets right down to it, I don't much care for Tennessee, Florida and Auburn either. I'm not crazy about Arkansas, either. However, I have some dear friends that are misguided fans of almost every SEC school.

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BTW "Cholley Mc" was my favorite LSU coach of all time. "He ain't nothing but a winner"


Coach Mac will always be my favorite LSU coach.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31160 posts
Posted on 11/18/07 at 11:56 am to
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You're a complete fricking idiot if you think we lose to La. Tech/Monroe (not sure who we play)



Bump!!

And let's talk about who the completing friggin idiot is.
Posted by homeyhomes
Member since Nov 2005
1314 posts
Posted on 11/18/07 at 11:58 am to
daaaamn booooyyeeeee
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 11/18/07 at 12:00 pm to


I thought it was elephants that never forget??
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