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Posted on 4/15/08 at 6:54 pm to King Joey
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"Gerry D bad coach. LSU make bad coach better.
Mike Archer bad coach. LSU make bad coach better.
Jerry Stovall mediocre coach. LSU make mediocre coach better.
Dietzel good coach. LSU make good coach great.
Saban good coach. LSU make good coach great.
Miles good coach. LSU make good coach great.
Gump get point now? Saban good coach, but only great at LSU."
I was just informed by a gump the following, "Tide have top 5 staff in country, maybe better". Exact words
After informing the gump that their current oc was about Dinky's 4th choice I was corrected.
Delusional Gump: "Ur an idiot. Saban interviewed several oc's and didn't offer".
Guess I have been put in my place.
Mighty Dinky.Posted on 4/15/08 at 6:56 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Maybe we can dry out Pat Dye and put him on the staff. It would be a shame to not be able to hear a drunken Pat call Finebaum and humiliate Auburn ever week though.
This post was edited on 4/15/08 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 4/15/08 at 6:58 pm to cajunbama
quote:No, I said they HAD success at LSU, greater than they ever had anywhere else. Which is patently obvious.
You said these were successful coaches and I said they were not
quote:Then if you don't expect Saban to match the success he had at LSU while at Bama, then why are you arguing with my suggestion that he's not likely to match the success he had at LSU while he is at Bama?
As far as how Saban will do at Bama, time and history will tell. I am not predicting NC or anything,
Posted on 4/15/08 at 7:00 pm to cajunbama
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Maybe we can dry out Pat Dye and put him on the staff
Maybe Dye would be likely to say
Posted on 4/15/08 at 7:05 pm to King Joey
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No, I said they HAD success at LSU
How about they had a successful season here and there. Now this has turned into semantics.
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Then if you don't expect Saban to match the success he had at LSU while at Bama, then why are you arguing with my suggestion that he's not likely to match the success he had at LSU while he is at Bama?
I was arguing against that Dinardo ect were successful coaches that LSU made. Lets just say they had some 10 win seasons. The only question I have left is who is responsible for the losing seasons, LSU or the coaches?
As far as arguing whether Saban will be as successful at Bama as LSU ie the Nation Championship, I think it would be a HUGE accomplishment for him to just win an SECC at two different schools, forget about 2 MNC. The odds say no effing way. We do not have nearly enough talent to start thinking NC, even though I do believe that should be the long term goal.
This post was edited on 4/15/08 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 4/15/08 at 8:53 pm to cajunbama
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As far as arguing whether Saban will be as successful at Bama as LSU ie the Nation Championship, I think it would be a HUGE accomplishment for him to just win an SECC at two different schools, forget about 2 MNC. The odds say no effing way. We do not have nearly enough talent to start thinking NC, even though I do believe that should be the long term goal.
That kind of thinking could label you as rational!
Posted on 4/15/08 at 11:23 pm to cajunbama
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Stoval also went 0-4 versus Miss St
John fricking Bond....
Posted on 4/16/08 at 4:30 am to Loserman
8 wins? That sucks for a $4million dollar coach.
Posted on 4/16/08 at 5:28 am to bulawayo
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You're a complete fricking idiot if you think we lose to La. Tech/Monroe (not sure who we play)
It's almost too easy
Posted on 4/16/08 at 5:52 am to ItNeverRains
this thread is greatness
Posted on 4/16/08 at 6:46 am to tygerfan70118
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this thread is greatness
Posted on 4/16/08 at 9:36 am to cajunbama
quote:And neither of them have achieved the kind of success they had at LSU. Get it?
And so far two of them left you.
Posted on 4/16/08 at 9:59 am to cajunbama
quote:What I was saying was that LSU made the success. What success those guys had was when they were at LSU.
I was arguing against that Dinardo ect were successful coaches that LSU made.
quote:Well, since they had losing seasons everywhere they coached, the logical choice would be to say it was the coaches. If you have somebody that loses everywhere, it's hard to attribute the losing to any particular program. But if the same guy only wins at one program, that raises attention. And when virtually everyone who coaches there wins significantly more there than they do anywhere else they coach, then that suggests there is something special about that program.
The only question I have left is who is responsible for the losing seasons, LSU or the coaches?
DiNardo never had a single winning season anywhere besides LSU, where he had three winning seasons including a 10-2 season and a 9-3 season, and won three straight bowl games (the only three he's ever been to). That's a significant improvement over his performance anywhere else.
Nick Saban never won 10 games before he got to LSU. He hasn't won 10 games since leaving LSU. He did it twice at LSU. He had a 10-3 SEC Championship season with a top 10 finish, and a 13-1 SEC and National Championship season. That's a significant improvement over his performance anywhere else.
Les Miles never won 11 games before arriving at LSU. He's never won fewer than 11 games in three years at LSU. He never won a conference championship before LSU. He's won an SEC and National Championship at LSU. That's a significant improvement over his performance anywhere else.
Maybe Saban will be just as successful (or nearly so) at Bama as he was at LSU. Maybe he will join Curley Hallman as the only LSU coaches to ever reach the pinnacle of their success somewhere else. But history does not suggest that will be the case.
Posted on 4/16/08 at 11:00 am to King Joey
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Well, since they had losing seasons everywhere they coached, the logical choice would be to say it was the coaches
The only one of the "bad coaches that LSU made good" that have been head coaches after their miserable failures there was Dinardo, and he coached Indiana.
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But if the same guy only wins at one program, that raises attention
You don't think I could make the same argument for Bama or alot of other schools??? Stallings being the perfect example.
This post was edited on 4/16/08 at 11:27 am
Posted on 4/16/08 at 11:03 am to King Joey
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And neither of them have achieved the kind of success they had at LSU. Get it?
Well, I was tring to insinuate I wonder when the third one will leave.
And the other coach has only been back in college football for 1 year. But touche. Good point.
Posted on 4/16/08 at 11:14 am to siliconvalleytiger
I THINK THEM LOSING TO ULM frickED THEIR PROGRAM. THAT'S PRETTY PATHETIC.
Posted on 4/16/08 at 11:18 am to URmomsBF
yeah, its like losing to UAB.
Posted on 4/16/08 at 11:19 am to URmomsBF
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Well, I was tring to insinuate I wonder when the third one will leave.
Dietzel and Saban have both publicly said that leaving LSU was the biggest mistake of their career. So what's your point?
This post was edited on 4/16/08 at 11:21 am
Posted on 4/16/08 at 11:22 am to cajunbama
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yeah, its like losing to UAB.
You're right....Saban was the coach for that one too.
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