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re: Athlon Coach Rankings - Ed O at 81

Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:05 pm to
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That's what scum does. Now kindly frick off.



You take this shite way too personally, dude. Jesus. You need to learn to be wrong with grace.
This post was edited on 7/1/17 at 8:06 pm
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:05 pm to
He was hired in 05 not 03 or 07. Everything els you said was subjective and inherently false. You're using positive spin surrounding the situation with Dabo and negative spin for context on O. This is the heart of the matter and proof your argument is fraudulent.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:07 pm to
No I don't I just don't like dishonest bullshite. If you want to have a civil discussion I'm in 100% and you'll never hear a wise crack. But when someone like that guy is throwing insults and condescending post then plays victim he deserves venom.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:08 pm to
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He was hired in 05 not 03 or 07

I realize that. He was hired in 05 and fired in 07. Why did you mention 2003 to begin with?
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Everything els you said was subjective and inherently false.

Like that Orgeron and Swinney were both successful recruiters and position coaches? I mean, that's a pretty objectively verifiable statement.
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You're using positive spin surrounding the situation with Dabo and negative spin for context on O.

You don't need spin to cast a negative light on winning 3 SEC games in 3 years including 0 in 2007. That's the very definition of failure.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:09 pm to
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In his first press conf he said he made a mistake at Ole Miss by trying to coach everything and micromanaging and he's changed his approach and it def shows.

So you believe he learned all this stuff from Carroll but didn't want to use it. And now he is definitely going to use it after he hasn't coached with Carroll in 12 or 13 years? Did you really expect him to say "Yeah I was the worst coach in the history of Ole Miss football but I'm going to do the same things here".
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He was also handed a sub par school in shambles as a first time HC

No he wasn't. They were two years removed from a 10 win season and one loss conference record.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:10 pm to
I mentioned 03 because I was incorrect about the year he was hired. And I'm not spinning light on 03, but there were circumstances there that he didn't create working against him.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:11 pm to
Not trying to shite on Dabo I originally used him as a positive fugue in the convo. Just saying he came into a much better situation that's just true.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:12 pm to
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No I don't I just don't like dishonest bullshite. If you want to have a civil discussion I'm in 100% and you'll never hear a wise crack. But when someone like that guy is throwing insults and condescending post then plays victim he deserves venom.

I asked you a simple question and you lost your mind
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:14 pm to
See you mention the 10 win season 2 years prior but fail to mention that his predecessor tore it down on purpose over a feud with the AD more recently to his hiring besides the fact it was 2 years prior and they had a 2x Super Bowl winning qb on that team.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:14 pm to
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but there were circumstances there that he didn't create working against him.

Were those things working against other coaches who have coached at Ole Miss or just him? Why was his arguably the worst 3 year stretch in school history?
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:15 pm to
More underneath victim role dishonesty. It's like a reflex for you isn't it? You can't help it lol.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:16 pm to
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but fail to mention that his predecessor tore it down on purpose over a feud with the AD

Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:16 pm to
Well it's not even close to their worst 3 year stretch but yes. Cutcliff was leaving and giving the ad the finger on his way out that's not a common thing.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:16 pm to
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More underneath victim role dishonesty. It's like a reflex for you isn't it? You can't help it lol.


I can link it for you if you would like
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:19 pm to
Link what? I answered your question you mocked the answer. You didn't want an answer you're a little roach. You keep confirming my assessment if you and trust me I read you loud and clear you don't need to continue.
Posted by lsu2006
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:19 pm to
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Well it's not even close to their worst 3 year stretch but yes.

You bet your arse it is. If it isn't, it's definitely one of the worst stretches in school history. They won 8 SEC games in 5 years under Steve Sloan in the 70's. That's about the closest I can come up with unless you go back to Pre-Johhny Vaught days.

But, how was were things working more against Orgeron than others, besides maybe Sloan?
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Cutcliff was leaving and giving the ad the finger on his way out that's not a common thing.

What
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:21 pm to
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but fail to mention that his predecessor tore it down on purpose

Can you expound on this?
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:25 pm to
We'll ole miss has had 3 year stretches of 5, 7, 6twice, and 8 games. Coach O won 11 that's 7th worse hardy the worst or close to it.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:26 pm to
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Link what? I answered your question you mocked the answer. You didn't want an answer you're a little roach. You keep confirming my assessment if you and trust me I read you loud and clear you don't need to continue.

Here is the question and your response.
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Did it seem like he learned a lot from Carroll when he coached Ole Miss, or did he just decide not to use it back then?

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I guess you missed his first press conference, the ole miss situation and sports in general. Gonna be a great season knowing that you morons won't be with us.

Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:27 pm to
Cutcliff wasn't happy with certain ppl and his situation. It's a long story and if I tried to recall it and post from memory I'm sure a lot would be left out. I'm sure you can find some of it if you look.
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