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re: Article on CLM from The Advocate

Posted on 1/11/13 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by laxer17
NOLA
Member since Jan 2012
3452 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

We’re playing against the finest teams in the country, and you know what? We had every opportunity to win, and I think that’s kind of where you want your program to be, don’t you?”

If We had every opportunity to win, then why didn't we??
Posted by BATiger
Bossier City
Member since Sep 2009
59 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

How do ya'll interpret this "Leslian" statement?



A lot of what he said was for the benefits of the recruiting class which also reads the board.
Posted by Da #1 Stunna
985
Member since Oct 2012
1082 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 12:38 am to
"I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt" bullshite makes me sick. Les Miles has been at our university long enough that we know exactly what he is. He has amassed a good record. He is an above average recruiter in a very target rich environment. He is a good man. He is a terrible gameday coach. He has terrible clock management skills. He does not know how to finish close games. He is not a good play caller. This is who he is.

The benefit of the doubt bullshite, and the behind the scenes act of this being a matter of National Security is a bunch of crap. Do what you have to do. Make the changes necessary so that you don't need to be concerned with play calling anymore - you are terrible at it. Watch tape of other teams and how they use their time outs and finish games. Learn how to manage the clock.

How about some level of transparency. How about saying, yeah we have problems on the offensive side of the ball, and we are going to make the necessary changes to fix that situation. Why is everything a secret? Say we have to change. What's wrong with that? When we had the co-defensive coordinator situation, he had to make sure he got these guys other jobs before he got Chavis. That is not his responsibility. Do what you have to do keep your program on top. Why do we put up with this shite from somebody that we pay top dollar for?
Posted by bigred1600x
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
387 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 1:19 am to
Like what he had to say but would like to hear more about him addressing the offense
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61017 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 1:28 am to
quote:

Like what he had to say but would like to hear more about him addressing the offense


You have a better chance at seeing pigs fly.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63121 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 2:19 am to
Somebody's gettin in trouble for posting so much of that article.
Posted by TopsInAmericaTim
Houston Area
Member since Oct 2011
1403 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:30 am to
OK... this is officially the best User Name in history... "Everyone in the German Army knows Mr. Hugo Stiglitz..." One of the best movies ever even though you know it's totally make believe and has nothing to do with history... Bravo
Posted by tigerd60
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Jan 2013
159 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 8:15 am to
ummm...ok...not exactly sure what Miles meant about being happy over sending players to the NFL early...but how bout our first priority being winning the SEC,2nd winning a NC,3rd the players turning pro? Anyone have problem with that? If I
am reading or understanding this wrong,someone please step up and point it out...
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
3999 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 8:25 am to
quote:

No comment is better than stating that the staff would stay the same...

Rantards may get their wisher sooner than we know it.


So I guess you'd prefer to leave things "as is" sunshine pumper?

Without all of the pressure from "rantards" and "negatigers" and people that are not in denial, Les would likely keep the status quo.

That is not acceptable. You look dumb as he does coaching offense when you make comments like that.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14969 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 8:37 am to
quote:

FEMA Director Mike Brown thought he was doing a good job following Katrina as well (right before he was fired), but that didn't change the reality of the fact that he failed miserably.


Horrible analogy on every level. It's so bad that if in your mind you think this is a good comparison then I don't even know how to explain this to you or where to start.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7269 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Without all of the pressure from "rantards" and "negatigers" and people that are not in denial, Les would likely keep the status quo.

You think way too highly of yourself. I seriously doubt that Miles has ever made a decision based on the whining of the rantards and negatigers.
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
3999 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 9:11 am to
quote:

You think way too highly of yourself. I seriously doubt that Miles has ever made a decision based on the whining of the rantards and negatigers.


In my world you are not being negative if you desire to improve. Les gets paid too much to be given a pass on a dysfunctional offense. Im sure he'd rather leave it alone as he has done the last couple of years but we all see how that has worked.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7269 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 9:33 am to
My post obviously went over your head. You implied that Miles has been "forced" to make changes because of the displeasure of the rantards and negatigers. Miles does not make decisions based on a bunch of whining on a message board.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64051 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:10 am to
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64051 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:13 am to
Miles is sending a message to future recruits that HIS program is where you want to be when considering a NFL career.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29013 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:38 am to
quote:

In the days since LSU’s disappointing 10-3 season concluded with a disappointing last-second loss to Clemson in the Chick-fil-A Bowl



Repetition for emphasis, which is appropriate, in this case, to get the point across.



Let's just hope the Advocate isn't able to cut/paste from articles from previous years on a regular basis.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4432 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

quote:
We’re playing against the finest teams in the country, and you know what? We had every opportunity to win, and I think that’s kind of where you want your program to be, don’t you?”


If We had every opportunity to win, then why didn't we??


You must have not read the article because the answer to your question was plain to see.

“I want to serve my team and my coaches and the people that show up in that stadium,” he said. “I always want me to give us every opportunity at victory, and I think we did, to a certain extent, but I’d like to have a couple of calls back. So I fell short. Blame me for that.”

Miles admitted there’s “a need to execute this offense in a more effective manner.” He added, “that’s something we’re all looking to get accomplished.”

Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4432 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

"I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt" bullshite makes me sick. Les Miles has been at our university long enough that we know exactly what he is. He has amassed a good record. He is an above average recruiter in a very target rich environment. He is a good man. He is a terrible gameday coach. He has terrible clock management skills. He does not know how to finish close games. He is not a good play caller. This is who he is.

The benefit of the doubt bullshite, and the behind the scenes act of this being a matter of National Security is a bunch of crap. Do what you have to do. Make the changes necessary so that you don't need to be concerned with play calling anymore - you are terrible at it. Watch tape of other teams and how they use their time outs and finish games. Learn how to manage the clock.

How about some level of transparency. How about saying, yeah we have problems on the offensive side of the ball, and we are going to make the necessary changes to fix that situation. Why is everything a secret? Say we have to change. What's wrong with that? When we had the co-defensive coordinator situation, he had to make sure he got these guys other jobs before he got Chavis. That is not his responsibility. Do what you have to do keep your program on top. Why do we put up with this shite from somebody that we pay top dollar for?


He did say we have to change. Happy now?


Miles admitted there’s “a need to execute this offense in a more effective manner.” He added, “that’s something we’re all looking to get accomplished.”
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29013 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

So I fell short. Blame me for that.



... and suffer the wrath of the Sunshine Pumpers who will not stand for it.


And ... no one wants to "blame" CLM.

I think most want him to do two things:

1) Recognize a clear deficiency.

2) Do something about it.



Here's the key... accomplishing #1 doesn't do squat if #2 is not accomplished.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22493 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

no one wants to "blame" CLM.

I think most want him to do two things:

1) Recognize a clear deficiency.

2) Do something about it.

Here's the key... accomplishing #1 doesn't do squat if #2 is not accomplished
Cold hard logic burns like hot ice down in pumper-land.
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