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re: Anyone listening to Cowherd?

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Posted by JLSU20
Conroe Texas
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 1:35 pm to
I just wish Auburn would have been able to whip USC in 04 so we would not have to hear about them as much. They are living off beating OU in 04.

Does anyone feel like OU and OSU should not play another BCS Championship game?
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Member since Nov 2003
3623 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 1:35 pm to
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it is still a proven fact that when they lineup for big games, they kick arse

Just ask Texas.
Posted by Cinci Tiger
Ohio
Member since Jan 2008
593 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 1:36 pm to
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If it's that easy, why did Florida lose to Michigan last year in Orlando?


I hate to admit it, but why did Florida lose to Michigan?
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 1:37 pm to
Texas barely won that game if not for a magnificient performance by Vince Young, still your talkin about 1 game, what's SC's big game record? something like 5-1 all blowouts
This post was edited on 1/9/09 at 1:39 pm
Posted by JLSU20
Conroe Texas
Member since Jul 2004
2048 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 1:39 pm to
That is because they play the big ten in the rose bowl every year.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 1:42 pm to
OU was one of the victims, all I'm sayin is we will never know who's better than who without a playoff.
Posted by JLSU20
Conroe Texas
Member since Jul 2004
2048 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 1:49 pm to
I hear you but is it who is better, or is it who is more deserving because of the competition they played all season? It should be more than who has the best talent, but IMO; should be who deserves to be in the game. Isn't the SEC always the toughest confernce top to bottom? That being said, the team that wins the toughest league should be in the NC game period. That is why I think Auburn should have been there in 04. I seriously have respect for the athletes on the USC team. Saying that, I truely believe they would have not beat AU that year, and would not have any BCS trophies. But, the games have to be played, and things do happen like Utah beating Alabama. I am definately Bias toward the SEC teams however because of the passion about defense, speed, power, will,etc....not just how many points you can score in the spread
This post was edited on 1/9/09 at 1:53 pm
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 1:51 pm to
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Didn't they go 0'fer against the fricking WAC earlier this year?


4-3. Obviously not spectacular but far from the 0'fer you're claiming. And for what it's worth the SEC was 1-1 against the WAC.

Arizona over Idaho 70-0.
Oregon over Utah State 66-24.
Oregon State over Hawaii 45-7.
Boise State over Oregon 37-32.
Stanford over San Jose State 23-10.
Frenso State over Fucla 36-31.
Hawaii over Washington State 24-10.

UF over Hawaii 56-10.
La Tech over MSU 22-14.
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 1:54 pm to
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I just wish Auburn would have been able to whip USC in 04 so we would not have to hear about them as much. They are living off beating OU in 04.


SC is living off an 6-1 BCS record. And no one has whipped SC since Pete Carrol has been here. Biggest loss was by, I think, 11 to Kansas State in 2001. Since then nothing over a Touchdown.
Posted by ThePlumber
NOLA
Member since Jul 2005
970 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 1:56 pm to
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OU was one of the victims

Listen to yourself. The whole world knows OU is absolutely terrible in big games. The rest of their "big wins" have come against the Big 10, which gets beaten down by everyone when bowl season comes around. It's not like they are dominating the SEC in BCS games every year.
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 2:00 pm to
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That is because they play the big ten in the rose bowl every year.



SC over OU in the Orange 55-19.
SC over Iowa in the Orange 38-17. (big ten yes, but not at rose bowl)
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 2:03 pm to
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The whole world knows OU is absolutely terrible in big games.
LSU-21 OU-14
UF-24 OU-14
USC-55 OU-19

I just follow facts, OU was terrible against SC.
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 2:09 pm to
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quote:
The whole world knows OU is absolutely terrible in big games.

LSU-21 OU-14
UF-24 OU-14
USC-55 OU-19

I just follow facts, OU was terrible against SC.


Exactly. If OU is so terrible then why did LSU only win by 1 TD in New Orleans?

Or UF win by only 10 in Miami?

Either you're not giving OU enough credit, or you're giving UF and LSU too much.
Posted by ThePlumber
NOLA
Member since Jul 2005
970 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 2:09 pm to
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LSU-21 OU-14
UF-24 OU-14
USC-55 OU-19

You forgot
BOISE STATE-43 OU-42
WV-48 OU-28
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Member since Nov 2003
3623 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 2:13 pm to
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what's SC's big game record? something like 5-1

Two of the past three years, they've been playing the second best Big 10 team in the Rose Bowl since OSU was in the Championship game, which is two of the six "big" game's you're talking about. What exactly do you quantify as a big game, anyway? Illinois? Seriously?
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 2:17 pm to
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What exactly do you quantify as a big game, anyway? Illinois? Seriously?


He obviously means BCS games.

And do you think SC fans were happy about Illinois? Hell frick no.

But if you guys are gonna discredit the Big10 so much, then be sure and ignore UF's and LSU's national championships against tOSU.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84687 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 2:18 pm to
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Anyone listening to Cowherd?
Giving LSU some props,

Cowherd often gives respect to LSU and the SEC. He did the same last year after the LSU-OSU game.
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Member since Nov 2003
3623 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 2:25 pm to
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But if you guys are gonna discredit the Big10 so much, then be sure and ignore UF's and LSU's national championships against tOSU

If we're now going to completely ignore the Big 10, what does that bring the big game records down to? I'm not ignoring anything, but if we're only talking BCS games here then Florida's loss to Michigan (and LSU's loss to Iowa a few years earlier) in the Capital One bowl is irrelevant to the discussion.
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 2:28 pm to
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Exactly. If OU is so terrible then why did LSU only win by 1 TD in New Orleans?

Or UF win by only 10 in Miami?

Either you're not giving OU enough credit, or you're giving UF and LSU too much.


Because in '03 we didn't need to leave our starters in the game just to inflate the score (like USCw would and does)...The game was already won. We had 3rd string playing. Y'all only beat Michigan by 14 anyhow.

UF could have scored again if they didn't take a knee at the end.

Our in-conference scedule is strong enough that we don't have to justify running up the score.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12744 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 2:30 pm to
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people keep mentioning SC's loss to OSU this year, UF lost to Ole Miss at home, Ou to Texas on a netrual field, in my eyes all three losses are equal.
I can't see it that way. No real comparison for OSU, but the team that beat Florida whipped the team that beat the team that beat OU. The transitive logic is not always definitive in college football, but it isn't always totally irrelevant.

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