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re: Anyone else happy now that Miles was hired and not Davis...
Posted on 9/2/10 at 2:15 pm to TGFN57
Posted on 9/2/10 at 2:15 pm to TGFN57
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No, we didn't. It was some kind of recruiting violation on a JC kid that never played a down. Coach responsible was canned and violation was self reported. Nothing like the massive cheating that has gone on at NC. Not even in the same universe.
agreed,
the more these things get exposed the more I wonder if the majority of the attrition miles has experienced was him running off the bad apples or potential issues. If so it says a lot about assessing talent and then testing the character. If correct it's one heck of a risk.
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 2:54 pm to Jester
quote:How can I forget something that hasn't or isn't happening. They are not ranked in the top 10 in football.
A basketball school that's ranked in the top 10 in football. You forgot about that little point.
but for your arguement if they were in the top ten then yes it would be more reason to wish Davis was here over Miles.
Posted on 9/2/10 at 3:51 pm to donut
Posted on 9/2/10 at 4:10 pm to captcouv
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However, they ARE ranked 18th. 3 above #21 LSU.
or 2 behind #16 LSU
Posted on 9/2/10 at 4:12 pm to TIGERSby10
Never have been a Davis fan, don't know where all the love comes from. Outside of Miami, he hasn't been stellar. Feel the same about Kelly at ND.
Posted on 9/2/10 at 4:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Never have been a Davis fan, don't know where all the love comes from. Outside of Miami, he hasn't been stellar. Feel the same about Kelly at ND
Agree with Davis, but Kelly has been phenomenal everywhere he's been.
He went to three straight Div. II National Championships before Central Michigan.
He took a Central Michigan program that hadn't won three games a year for the four previous years and went:
4-7
6-5
9-4
Then went to a horrid Cincinnati team and went:
10-3
11-3
12-0
in three consecutive years.
Posted on 9/2/10 at 4:22 pm to Antonio Moss
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Agree with Davis, but Kelly has been phenomenal everywhere he's been.
Curly Hallman was pretty good before he got to LSU. UF exposed Cincy. Didn't matter if Kelly was not present. Kelly may be awesome but he may flop on the big scene. He is still unproven at the elite level.
This post was edited on 9/2/10 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 9/2/10 at 4:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Curly Hallman was pretty good before he got to LSU
two words....Brett Favvrraah. That s.o.b. is the only reason LSU hired Curly
Posted on 9/2/10 at 4:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
If he can win 9 games a year with Notre Dame, it will be a success.
Posted on 9/2/10 at 4:26 pm to TigerJeff
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Gruden, Cowher, Muschamp, and Patterson
You left off Del Rio, Peyton, Belichick, Caldwell, Tomlin and Singletary.
I hear that they are all interested in the job.
Posted on 9/2/10 at 4:26 pm to SuperD AP
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I dont know about this. Right after he left Miami, players wre getting shot after practice. Everyone was calling them thug U and what not. I think Butch is an excellent game time coach, but does he run a clean program..... ehh.
Nice try pal. Butch Davis' final season at Miami was 2000. These shootings occurred in 2006. I'll even post a link for you. You're welcome. However that article does state that one player was killed in 1996, which I believe fell within Davis' tenure. However that particular murder involved being bludgeoned to death and slash with a knife.
Posted on 9/2/10 at 4:28 pm to Antonio Moss
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Then went to a horrid Cincinnati team and went:
10-3
11-3
12-0
in three consecutive years.
Cincy wasn't horrid. Mark Dantonio had a winning season 2 out of 3 years there.
Posted on 9/2/10 at 4:29 pm to TGFN57
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Didn't we get caught paying a d-lineman's rent and shite just last year?
No, we didn't. It was some kind of recruiting violation on a JC kid that never played a down. Coach responsible was canned and violation was self reported. Nothing like the massive cheating that has gone on at NC. Not even in the same universe.
It did involve the assistant coach helping the player with rent off-campus. It was self-reported just as the issues that arose during Saban's tenure were. You can't totally eliminate the wrong-doing but it does appear that LSU learned a hard lesson from the Lester Earl scandal of the '90's. A strong self-policing effort pays big dividends. It should be mentioned that some of the UNC issues were also self-reported.
Posted on 9/2/10 at 4:29 pm to amiznit
Horrid was probably the wrong word. Incredible average is better - 7-5, 4-7, 7-5
Posted on 9/2/10 at 5:45 pm to RANDY44
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It did involve the assistant coach helping the player with rent off-campus
Link?
Posted on 9/3/10 at 7:17 am to Uncommon Cents
[quote]
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Gruden, Cowher, Muschamp, and Patterson
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You left off Del Rio, Peyton, Belichick, Caldwell, Tomlin and Singletary.
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Not to mention: Warner, Bryant, Robinson, Stagg, Rockne, Paterno, Bowden, Holtz, John Curtis Sr, and Dale Weiner.
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Gruden, Cowher, Muschamp, and Patterson
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You left off Del Rio, Peyton, Belichick, Caldwell, Tomlin and Singletary.
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Not to mention: Warner, Bryant, Robinson, Stagg, Rockne, Paterno, Bowden, Holtz, John Curtis Sr, and Dale Weiner.
Posted on 9/3/10 at 7:40 am to captcouv
I'm not happy thAt Miles was hired. I didn't want Davis either. We have underachieved with Miles here, despite his three seasons of double digit wins. On another matter,
This poster lives in an idyllic world of idealism. Nothing about that quote represents realism. Certainly cheating goes on everywhere. The key is not to get caught or call attention to it. LSU has dodged an NCAA bullet more than once, but took a direct hit in the Lester Earl fiasco.
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No, you are the crazy one for saying it does. It doesn't go on everywhere you jackass.
This poster lives in an idyllic world of idealism. Nothing about that quote represents realism. Certainly cheating goes on everywhere. The key is not to get caught or call attention to it. LSU has dodged an NCAA bullet more than once, but took a direct hit in the Lester Earl fiasco.
Posted on 9/3/10 at 7:49 am to TGFN57
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No, you are the crazy one for saying it does. It doesn't go on everywhere you jackass. You are pissed because once again Les Miles program is free of the kind of scandal that so called "better coaches" like Davis carry around with them like old luggage.
No one is crazy. You are just very naive if you truly don't think this stuff goes on EVERYWHERE! I have a buddy who played JUCO ball for a few years and he said even they got "benefits", so if you think it doesn't happen at literally every single school, especially the big time programs, you need to take your head out of the sand. The difference is some are just better at not getting caught. I'm not saying every coach at every participates in providing benefits, but most of them would just rather not know what's going on behind the scenes if you know what I'm saying.
Posted on 9/3/10 at 7:51 am to Ancientiger
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This poster lives in an idyllic world of idealism
Isn't that redundant and repetitive?
Posted on 9/3/10 at 8:14 am to SuperD AP
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I dont know about this. Right after he left Miami, players wre getting shot after practice.
that was years after davis left
coker let UM get bad
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but does he run a clean program..... ehh.
UM was under possibly the most scrutiny of any modern program ever and he turned them into the 00-02 machine
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