re: Another thing I have noticed..

The anger is strong with you, sir. Sorry we don't all blindly support O, no matter the facts. Just don't try and sell us a shite sandwich and tell us it's peanut butter because any reasonable person ain't buying the shite you're selling.

Coach O's family is very passionate about all this and understandably so, but they need to try and be objective for a moment. Let the season play out before naming him if that ends up being the best option

They are Bama homers. Screw them and thank you for calling their sorry asses out.

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Let the season play out before naming him if that ends up being the best option

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That's what i am saying. I dont have O at the top of my list, atm. That's for good reason(s). Not just because of his ole miss record, but also because other guys are more qualified. That's just how it is.

Could i change my mind at the end of the season? Sure. I still wouldn't have him at the top of my list but he would be up there. I mean even if he only lost one his overall resume is still lackluster compared to Jimbo, assuming he is available. I'd still risk Herman over O, but i understand why, assuming O does only lose 1, some people would want O over Herman.

Up to this point, though, O isn't cracking my top 5. That may change after the Bama game, though.

Idgaf about you two, I just want the op to come back and back up his facts

Why did you choose the years of 2012 thru 2015? Why not compare the two from Fishers first year as a head coach, 2010?

2010 and 2011 were Miles two best seasons and they were Fishers two worst. Is that why? Now I realize that Fisher has an overall better record than Miles no matter what season you start with, but Fisher was 19-8 during the 2010-11 seasons. That's a record that most people would complain about in regards to the LSU head coaching position.

And in 4 of those 6 years, LSU faced more top 25 teams than FSU. The other two years, both programs faced the same number of top 25 teams, 5 each in 2013 and 4 each in 2014.

So you can argue that Fisher has done better than Miles record wise, but he has also played a weaker schedule year after year. Also don't forget the last two bowl games where Fisher and FSU got blown out by Oregon and Houston.

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Why did you choose the years of 2012 thru 2015? Why not compare the two from Fishers first year as a head coach, 2010

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I did that because i feel like both coaches had time to make that team their own from there out. I mean is it fair to compare miles and fisher when one just got their program and the other had it for some time? Another reason i made that my analysis was that Tiger Ree was pointing out how Miles got fired even though he went 9-3 in his last full year. My point was that he got fired because of his SEC play. Go back and check it out and you'll see what i am referencing.

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but Fisher was 19-8 during the 2010-11 seasons. That's a record that most people would complain about in regards to the LSU head coaching position.

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Really? In his first two years though? I mean i dont think people are/would/should say that makes him a bad coach or not qualifying to coach at LSU.

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So you can argue that Fisher has done better than Miles record wise, but he has also played a weaker schedule year after year. Also don't forget the last two bowl games where Fisher and FSU got blown out by Oregon and Houston.

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I don't disagree with you about the schedule, but again he did win a Natty in that time and still beat the SEC to get it. Bowl games are concerning too.

Honestly, I'm not here to try and say jimbo doesn't have his faults or downfalls. All coaches do. I was making the point to Tiger Ree that trying to put down jimbo to make O look better is just silly. up to this point: lsu would be crazy to hire O over Jimbo. Again that could change. I just find it odd people like Tiger Ree can't even admit that part of it.

Eta: im looking for the next head coach at lsu not the old one. So the miles comparison was just a weird tangent he brought in to the argument. If I'm looking at Jimbo, O, and Herman (most popular 3) ill take jimbo, herman, and O. If i am going top 5 ill take 1)Jimbo 2) Herman 3) Petersen 4) petrino 5) kelly. I would be happy with any of those guys. O falls in to the next tier for me.

Tiger Tracker, thanks for your explanation.

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Three of his five wins this year were against Charleston Southern, USF and Wake Forest. The other two were a close win against Ole Miss and a 20-19 against a 4-4 Miami. Yeah, this guy can beat Alabama every year. That's what LSU fans want, right? Sign him up.

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Why do you keep dogging other coaches for losing a few games, but want do the same when O did it for 3 years straight, too a much worse degree?

Good coaches have bad teams some times. Urban, saban, harbaugh have all lost 3-4 games in a year. No coach is perfect. But you need to be looking at thier overall history, not cherry picking what helps your argument.

Hell, urban stunk it up his last couple years at Florida. Would you have crossed him off the hire list back then?

passing for 88, 30 and 53 yards in 3 of 5 games is tearing it up?.. im done arguing with you, you obviously loved JJ and youre a troll.. the passing offense was atrocious with JJ and everyone knows it... when lee was starting it was as balanced as it could be because he could actually throw a forward pass, it kept 8 men out of the box, why do you think we are having succes now, defenses cant bring their SS down, they have to respect the pass. multiple post you pose no argument, you just call names, thats what people do when they lose debates.. youve already shown this.. adios.