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Posted on 5/22/19 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 4:46 pm to
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to act like it was a legitimate concern during the hiring process is nonsense


Exactly. A HC is judged on his resume’. It’s literally all the coach is judged on.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 4:49 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 4:54 pm to
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What happened at OM doesn’t mean a damn thing. It was 15 years ago at a program that hasn’t won the sec since the 60’s


It doesn’t not matter now that he’s had 3 years basically at LSU but it was his resume before he got here so it was a legitimate point.
and the OM haven’t won theSEC since the 60s trope is a red herring. The only options are not win the SEC or suck. We’ve seen coaches, actually all of them in the last 3 decades besides O and the current guy, win 9-10 games in a single season there. If you want to put it to bed, he needs to keep winning.

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I’ve said if CLM can win here there is no reason O can’t.


This is showing your anti Miles bias. Like it or not Miles had a better resume before getting the LSU job, that’s not the end all be all but it does suggest he was a better coach. He won a title and built another NC contender that only lost a rematch to Saban.

If O gets close to that it would be surprising.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 4:55 pm to
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I don't care what you do troll.


And O stunk it up at Ole Miss? Yeah? So?

Just means he got some great coaching lessons on THEIR dime.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:01 pm to
What? O hasn’t even won the West, let alone the SEC.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:13 pm to
The SEC West is MUCH tougher now than when Miles won it.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:14 pm to
Ole Miss has had 7 seasons in the last 50 years that they won 9 or more games. The program is terrible. To even suggest the 2 programs are comparable is assinine.

Miles was 28-21 at Ok. St. Miles was there when the program started supporting football. Grundy hasn’t won a national title but he has a much better record at OK. St...does that mean he is a better coach than Miles?
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:15 pm to
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The SEC West is MUCH tougher now than when Miles won it


Which time?
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:17 pm to
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Miles was 28-21 at Ok. St


Look at their record before he was hired there, then look at their record after he left.

It’s pretty self explanatory.

Before Miles was hired Ok. State had records of 5-6, 5-6, and 3-8, I believe that’s correct.

After Miles was hired at Oklahoma State

This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:21 pm to
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The SEC West is MUCH tougher now than when Miles won it.



What evidence are you using to come to this conclusion?
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:22 pm to
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The SEC West is MUCH tougher now than when Miles won it

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:23 pm to
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Look at their record before he was hired there, then look at their record after he left.

It’s pretty self explanatory.


Look at Gundy’s when Miles left...Gundy must be a better coach than Miles right?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:24 pm to
You must be a professional troll.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:25 pm to
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Look at Gundy’s when Miles left...Gundy must be a better coach than Miles right?



Maybe. Gundy is a damn good coach and very few would be disappointed to have him at LSU.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:26 pm to
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The SEC West is MUCH tougher now than when Miles won it.

Do you mean in 2005, 2007 or 2011? In 2011 LSU, Bama and Arkansas finished in the top 5.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31014 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:26 pm to
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Look at Gundy’s when Miles left...Gundy must be a better coach than Miles right?


Gundy is a very good coach but I don’t think Gundy’s been a HC at LSU.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 5:31 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47892 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:27 pm to
Gundy must be a better coach than Miles right?


Yes, I’d take Gundy over Miles any day.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:29 pm to
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Gundy must be a better coach than Miles right?


Maybe. He’s done a hell of a job there.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:30 pm to
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Before Miles was hired Ok. State had records of 5-6, 5-6, and 3-8, I believe that’s correct.



Miles went 4-7 his first year. Then schedule added a 12th game, allowing for an extra rent a win. You act like LSU fans were excited about the Miles hire
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:36 pm to
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Gundy must be a better coach than Miles right?



Comparing apples to apples he is and it isn’t even close.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31014 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:38 pm to
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Miles went 4-7 his first year


Yes he did. The point you’re missing is following that year he coached them to better records. Beat OU twice in 2 consecutive years if I remember correctly.

Then he came here and won the conference 3 times, beat Saban 3x, won a natty, got to another.

As of right now, O has yet to get close to accomplishing any of that. Again, it goes back to what I and a few other posters have said. A HC’s resume’ is literally the only thing he is judged on.

So while Miles’ record at Oklahoma State hardly sets any eye opening records, he did have more success at his stop prior to being hired at LSU, unlike O. Does that mean I hate O? Absolutely not.


Just comparing records of the former LSU coach and the current one.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 5:40 pm
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