re: And yet we can't get any of our QBs near this level...

already discussed newb: LINK

And I'll say the same thing I said on that thread.

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According to Rivals, JaMarcus Russell was the #6 pro-style QB and Jarrett Lee was the #7 pro-style QB. Matt Flynn was the #16 pro-style QB, Jordan Jefferson was the #8 pro-style QB and Chris Garrett was the #18 pro-style QB.

And taken from a previous post by crowbar832001,

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ok here are the 5*'s since 2002

2002
Ben Olsen - Bust
Trent Edwards - probably best of that class

2003
Kyle Wright - Bust

2004
Rhett Bomar - Bust. kicked off the team.
Anthony Morelli - I would put in the Bust column.
Chad Henne - debatable best of the class

2005
Mark Sanchez - Best of the class

2006
Matthew Staford - with 3* Sam Bradford best of the class
Mitch Mustain - Bust. Head case.

2007
Jimmy Clausen - Wouldn't call a bust but never lived up to the hype.
Ryan Mallet - Big year. Think he has a chance for a number 1 pick in 2011.

2008
Blaine Gabbert - looks good
Dayne Crist - we start to find out this year

2009
Matt Barkley - too early
Garrett Gilbert - too early

2010
NONE
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You can see that the 5* don't always work out. I mean Colt McCoy, Chase Daniels and Sam Bradford were all 3*s. It's hard to project a QBs success and it doesn't help that we don't have a real QB coach and force non option qbs to run the option.

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Also, it's not easy to go out and just nab a five star QB or every team in the country would do it.

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Played well in the national championship game.

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15 for 40 with 4 picks say different.

But I'll gladly give him a pass on that performance when you take in the stage that he was thrust into. What's helped him is having the years to sit behind Colt McCoy (a sure first round draft pick). That type of experience is invaluable.

In Colts situation, he wasn't that good early on but he was left in to learn and grow, which he did. But he was lead along by what I think is a better coaching staff, or at least head coach, who developed him into what he is today. I'm not throwing darts at Miles because as long as he's our coach, I support him. But he has his issues, as do every other D1 coach.

That being said, Gilberts spring game numbers were against the 1st team defense, which wasn't too shabby last year. So the kid is showing improvement, which is what you want to see.

I just feel like if Lee would've remained the starter, he would've at least had the chance to grow into a top tier QB. On the flip side, damn it was painful to watch early on. But you have to go through those growing pains to live up to your hype. And I think Jefferson would have benefitted from watching that maturation process and would be farther along than he is now.

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If you mention JR you need to be took out back and shot. we all know he is going to down as the biggest bust at qb in the history of the NFL

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well this is a LSU board, and he improved greatly at LSU. He was far and away the best QB in the SEC and the country his junior season.

He only threw an INT in 4 games that season

We don't have any QBs playing at that level because we don't have coaches who coach at that level. We've had QB issues the past two seasons, Lee showed improvement, while Jefferson, our "best QB", showed no improvement. Why is this? Why do both of our QBs have such a hard time performing at that level? It's the coach's responsibility to instill confidence in your QB and Crowton's system only shatters a young QBs confidence. His system may work fine with a 5th year senior QB, but his failure to adjust properly has resulted in two QBs with little confidence because his system forces plays that they cannot execute.

So yes, I blame our lack of elite QB performance on Crowton and Miles. Crowton for not knowing how to teach the QB position, and Miles for not hiring a QB coach. Ultimatley, it falls back on Miles, but Crowton sucks as a QB coach (and a OC really)

Your having a rough start with those 11 post but at your pace you should be drowned in Mikes pool at the sanctuary. For the most part, all great QBs have great supporting cast. The jury is ,of course still out on JR's career considering where hes at so try to add some quality to your post from now on or GTFO!

knockers your jury might be the only one still out on JR. yes i understand he was drafted by the raiders but the raiders were the only team that would have spent the first pick in the draft on this guy.

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Gilbert has no problem running the offense

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He looked great running the offense against Bama in the Rose Bowl, especially that pick six! I'm Glad he shined in the Spring Game, since that is really all that matters.

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Stop the execuses.

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Here, here!

Wednesday, April 7th. Texas Spring Game, 10:30 p.m., FSSW .... FSN (Fox Sports Net)

Watch the Replay on Fox. It was nice to watch a spring game that was fluid and well organized by the coaches.

Good play calling, quarterback through nice balls that receivers caught.

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JJs numbers compared to Flynns you may be shocked at how similiar they are.

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true

also look at the rushing yards
in 07 lsu ran for over 3000
in 09 lsu ran for almost 1600

no one cares b/c its not relevant.
It makes you feel better about yourself and JJ, but at the end of the day it just dont mean anything.

sorry.