re: Analyzing Lee's Throws (With Screenshots)

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everyone is a QB coach now it seems. pretty funny.

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Is what I said false?

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Your ignorance as to which player, playing which position should have the biggest numbers equally shows your lack of knowledge.

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The fact that you think an undersized, one-dimensional TE who has shown shaky hands in the past is a better NFL prospect than one of the most heralded WR recruits with gobs of NFL tools says enough.

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The truth is your some whine little kid playing with his parents computer.

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In the mean time, quit attacking people that you don't know. Shish! Don't cry any more.

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I should have given up a long time ago.

I need to stick to the M/TV Board and MSB.

Was at game, although there were alot of back foot throws, a few instances of happy feet, and a little pocket awareness issues, JL was solid. He gave us the best chance to win, and we did.

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Seems to me you might then be convinced that this was the best accuracy performance we have had in over a year.

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Not even the best in the last two games. Remember the Cotton Bowl in January? 10-22? Best accuracy? Geeze you guys are blinded by something. And then lie to support you position.

It can be argued:

-Blue should have caught the ball (5 yards)
-Catchable ball that Clement dropped (23)
-Ball went thru Boone's hands (11 yards)
-Catchable ball that Beckham drops (30 yards)
-Ford not looking at all (2 yards)
-Ball hits Clements in the hands (5 yards)
-Randle interfered (6 yards)
-Boone drops the ball (22 yards)
-Randle interfered with again (5 yards)
-Hits Beckham's hands (20 yards)
-Beckham catch nullified due to holding (30 yards)


Not counting RAC numbers, Jarrett Lee could have had 253 total passing yards if not for the drops & penalties.

Dan, Thanks for the breakdown and also whomever posted the link to video as well. I would love see this after every game especially with a less pessimistic narrative, if possible. JL's job was to get the ball in the playmakers hands and for the most part I thought he did. Michael Irving was "The Playmaker" and not because every ball Troy thew hit him in the #'s and he ran for a TD. He got the nickname because if you put the ball around him the majority of the time, he won the battle. I'm optimistic that with more reps we will win more of these battles and the offense will be more productive.
I also think that although this will not be close to the best defense we face this year, there was some serviceable SEC talent in there secondary. OBJ in endzone was great coverage and the lick on Clement over the middle was nice. Although Gildon would not see the field in our secondary this year, most years he prolly would.

Thanks again and

Dan, thanks for the solid effort. Geaux2002 and rickyh did their best to frick up a good thread.

Some posters want to regurgitate the platitudes they heard as a youth and offer that as real analysis. Receivers should catch balls that hit them in the hands in practice. It's just pitch and catch. There is no reason to drop them.

However, in a game, things are different. There's a whole other team out there who trying to make sure that catchable passes are NOT caught. What some people seem to not be willing to acknowledge is that in a game, not every catchable pass is going to be caught.

I did not see one person who argued against you in this thread acknowledge the simple fact that passes can be defensed.

It matters not at all if the pass hits the receivers in his hands if the defender can nearly simultaneously knock the ball out of the receiver's hands.

All passing stats reflect the simple truth that some passes get broken up by the defender. QBs don't get credit for those passes. Those passes are not drops even if the ball touches the receiver's hands. That is simply a fact of life.

Again, thanks for the effort.

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I appreciate the analysis, but have we ever seen one of these with JJ? To be completely objective, one would have to show both sides of the story, correct?

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I would imagine it would be pretty similar. Some "bad" throws. Some "dropped" passes. Some "defensed" passes.

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Maybe you should go back to some films from last season and perform this type of analysis on our QB play.

Seems to me you might then be convinced that this was the best accuracy performance we have had in over a year.

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Precisely - I have never seen JJ throw that many catchable balls in a season let alone in one game, let alone in the opening game with a big-name opponent, let alone being shoved into the job at the last minute.

No - Lee was nowhere near perfect - and surely nobody here thinks he ever will be.

But damn, he mostly got the ball in the vicinity to be caught and I expect that to continuously improve as he gets more reps with the #1's.

btw - thanks to the OP for the effort - haven't seen it presented this way before. This was a result of some hard work - thanks again.