re: Analyzing Lee's Throws (With Screenshots)

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We are now not allowed to criticize Lee because "he's been through so much.

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I never said he should not be criticized. I think criticism should be given when it is earned. Under the circumstances of last night's game, he played a pretty good game...not great...good. After a few balls were dropped, he had a stretch of 3-4 passes that were poorly thrown. He then overcame his difficulties and threw balls that were catchable for the rest of the game.

He had less than two weeks of taking snaps with the 1s, and none of those snaps were really live (without a green jersey).

I think he should have a chance to get some snaps under his belt before he is held to the standard that you are suggesting here. To say that a dropped on target throw that is not a perfect spiral is not the receivers fault is taking things a bit far, IMHO.

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He still looked more composed than JJ did all season.

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He looked far less composed than JJ.

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Are we going to dissect how "composed" a QB "looks" during a game? You cannot see his face nor tell what he is thinking. That goes for JJ and JL and any other QB. Our fanbase is nuts!

JL throws off of his backfoot, but that does not mean he lacks composure. GTFO with that shite.

This is a great solid and nice post. Like a good shite, shower and shave to start the day.

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I'm curious to see what happens with JJ. Not because I want him to start, but because I think Lee has a fragile ego, and even the presence of Jefferson could affect him at this point

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There may be some merit to that argument. If JJ comes back this week, do you think we put him in there to start against NWST? I think that if JJ has only barely separated himself from JL during the offseason, you should still go with JL as long as he practices well this week and looks good against NWST. If JJ was the far superior QB in the offseason, and you bring him back this week, you better play him.

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If JJ comes back this week, do you think we put him in there to start against NWST?

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Na, I think Miles will roll with Lee going forward. This isn't an RP situation where he's clearly superior so you try to turn a blind eye because you NEED him.

I think he'll make JJ suffer in banland for a while... a few weeks even. He's stubborn and he wants to make a statement. And then he may give him a chance to work back into play... as a runner.

Dan, did you notice that you applied a standard where every incomplete pass that was not absolutely perfectly placed was not considered a drop? I'm not sure if this is intentional, but if it is you should realize that no one has ever relevantly judged a passing game by that standard. Every ball that hits the hands of a receiver is a drop, even the ones that are not thrown well. Some are more excuseable drops (like when it took an amazing feat just to get your hands on it), but the fact that a receiver has to slow his momentum to position for a pass that is slightly behind him does not usually excuse it from being a drop.

Yes, I think your analysis is extremely harsh on Lee, as I don't believe any QB in the game would have more than about 40% of their passes qualify as "good throws" by your standard. Far less than half of Andrew Luck's throws hit the receiver perfectly in stride in the exact preferred hand location for the route. It's just not going to happen, no matter how good your QB is.

Also, why do you believe he checked into that running play right into the defense? Because Herbie said he did? Didn't you hear Les after the game saying that he told Lee to just run the plays that were called? And we were calling running plays right into the teeth of their defense all night (with pretty good success). I'm not saying he didn't check into it, but I'm just wondering if you have any other reason to believe that he was audibling rather than just pointing out blocking assignments and defensive alignments.

Overall, I think your pessimism is significantly overwhelming your objectivity and reason. Lee had zero INTs, made multiple crucial throws, maintained his team's composure, and directed a productive offense in a game where that was all that was asked or needed of the offense. He had a long pass completion (yes, even though it wasn't very well thrown) called back by a mystery penalty, and two more (or at least one more) likely completion stopped by pass interference which netted us a first down on the penalty (and both PIs on Mitchell were smart plays, imo). And he had at least a few passes that were very catchable but weren't hauled in. And with all of that, his stat line was still serviceable (especially the 1 TD/0 INT part) for an offense than dominated the line of scrimmage with the running game and rarely worked without a short field.

I am quite happy with his performance, and very much encouraged by it. And yes, I'm an optimist when it comes to LSU football because expecting the best is a hell of a lot more fun than expecting the worst, and since I don't care if anonymous idiots on a message board call me a "homer" there's absolutely zero difference in the outcome either way. So I opt for the fun way, which has allowed me to feel this good and excited all summer!

So cheer up!

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Not because I want him to start, but because I think Lee has a fragile ego, and even the presence of Jefferson could affect him at this point (which I why I believe Miles held out on pulling the suspension because he didn't want Lee to even bother thinking about that heading into Dallas).

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Holy shite. This statement alone proves you know very little about "egos" and their fragility. If this kid had a fragile ego, he wouldn't have been able to stay here 3 more years after what he went through in 2008 without ever once bitching or acting like a baby. If you made that statement for JJ, fine. It actually has merit, because he looks like a child pouting when things go wrong and if Lee was brought into bail him out.

Lee has shown more resolve than anyone on this team, and I seriously doubt his ego is that fragile. PERIOD.

The kid definitely has some things he has to work on and improve, but some of you sound pretty pathetic attacking every little thing as you are.

way too harsh on lee considering the circumstances

was he amazing? no

was he adequate? yes

did his receivers drop balls that hit them in the hands?

absolutely

Ok, enough with your hit and runs on my posts. Have a good night.

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Pass #6, the incomplete pass to Boone, was a real bummer. Ford absolutely whiffed on the blitzing defender and Lee was leveled. I think it took away from that little bit of "umphh" he needed to get it to Boone in stride. Also, I think he overcompensated on the pass to OBJ later in the game that was called back because of the hold.

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I agree totally. He panicked a bit when Ford missed the blitzer (rightfully so) and just tried to get the ball out there for an athletic guy like Boone to make the play (unfortunately he didn't).

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I think, for Lee's sake and LSU's sake, Randle has to be involved more in the passing game.

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The one aspect of the playcalling I didn't get. Why not get Lee to Randle on some early slants and outs? Build up their rapport? Randle had a tremendous mismatch and could have abused his defender all night... and that could have been good early confidence building for Lee.