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re: Alleva interview right now on 104.5.......

Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:59 am to
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:59 am to
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:02 am to
So you guys would like to miss out on the TV money that playing when networks want you too. Good luck with that, we would never be able to compete without the TV money.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:08 am to
I asked this question yesterday in the very long thread about this topic, but has anyone answered the question as to why it is A&M is somehow immune from the wishes of CBS in terms of getting this game moved to Thanksgiving (a day CBS can/will not broadcast it) while LSU is subject to the wishes of CBS who still wants to have that marquee game on Friday afternoon?

Whatever the argument for why LSU has no pull in terms of getting that last game on Saturday (either day or night) none of that answers the question as to how A&M can seemingly tell CBS to go frick itself and move a game to Thanksgiving night and make it impossible for CBS to televise it. We're always told that our game time are determined by our success level, and that since we're good and CBS has first choice we often times end up in day slots against our wishes.

Is A&M not covered by the same SEC/CBS contract the rest of the league is? Are we to assume that CBS, the big dog here in terms of determining the which games are played which days since they get first pick) had no interest is showing LSU-A&M in College station on Friday allowing it to drop to ESPN because they hate the idea of ad revenue generated by the game?

Either the SEC can be told what to do by CBS, or they can't. If CBS is the deciding factor, then someone needs to explain why they would willingly give up this choice game every other year so that A&M can play it on a day they can't broadcast it. CBS is paying huge sums of money to the SEC to broadcast as many potentially huge match-ups as possible...why pass on this one 50% of the time?
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:12 am to
Whose on board to fire Alleva this week and hire the guy from Louisville
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:23 am to
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GeauxTigerTM





Bing-freaking-o!
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:33 am to
It's probably because they have the iron bowl.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:36 am to
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It's probably because they have the iron bowl.


But the Iron Bowl doesn't play on Friday. Nick Saban told CBS he wasn't playing on Friday anymore. So now CBS has a hole for their Friday 1:30 slot every other year.

Maybe they'll show the Egg Bowl to a nation-wide audience.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:37 am to
If espn has second pick they could take our game after the iron bowl, no?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:58 am to
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It's probably because they have the iron bowl.


No, the Iron Bowl is already on CBS on Saturday. For many years, there has been two CBS games that week. One featuring LSU-ARKY on Friday, and The Iron Bowl on Saturday. No issue at all.

The problem here is that it looks for all the world like CBS has either been told to go piss up a rope or has simply allowed a high profile game to be played on another network for no good reason. I'm curious as to why or how that's possible.

If it's because the SEC was able to flex some muscle with CBS, then as an LSU fan I'd certainly appreciate a little of it being flexed for us occasionally. If it's simply CBS being nice (and idiotic given they are giving up a huge high profile and marketable game) then I certainly appreciate them being nice to LSU occasionally.

But simply stating that the game in College Station just matter-of-factly got moved to a day CBS can't/won't broadcast it and in th same breath tell LSU fans that their issues with the schedule are solely due to contract issues with CBS is some first rate bullshite.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:59 am to
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I really don't get what you people want him to do? Twist arms? Threaten to leave the conference? How would handle moving a game to Thanksgiving.
Posted by clamdip
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:01 am to
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[Alleva] does a better job than probably 80% of the AD's in the NCAA, and has done far more for the program than Bertman ever did.
you must be Alleva's cousin. You keep saying this about comparing him to Bertman, but it's just not true. Bertman had the unenviable job of changing the mindset from the ole boy / accounting ways of Joe Dean to that of a true proactive, visionary athletic department.

The most painful aspect of this was changing the funding structure, kicking out the grandfathered 50 yard line folks paying face value and putting those tickets into TAF, RV and lot parking passes instead of people parking everyone on campus they pleased (including on roots of 100 yr old oaks).

I commend Bertman for making the tough changes that he knew would piss off a large sedentary segment of Tiger Nation. But, it needed to be done.

All of this was at the forefront of LSU's charge into the "arms race" that the SEC is in the middle of now.

Alleva should get down on his knees and kiss Bertman's pasty white butt for running this gauntlet for him.

All Alleva is doing is picking up the agenda that Bertman had already laid out.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:05 am to
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If espn has second pick they could take our game after the iron bowl, no?


Sure, but that assumes CBS passes on all LSU-A&M games both home and away. There's literally no reason for them to do that. That game was on Friday so that CBS could have a marketable game two days in a row. There's no reason at this point to assume CBS will not continue to televise the LSU game the Friday after Thanksgiving in Baton Rouge. The only OTHER alternative would be to have a CBS prime-time game the Saturday after Thanksgiving thereby getting CBS to still have two games that weekend.

I get why they can't televise it on Thursday...because they are already doing n NFL game that game...but why lose the game entirely and what looks like simply allowing A&M to walk away and play on a date they want? Why aren't we hearing A&M fans crying about mean old CBS telling them they can't have their Thanksgiving Day game because they don;t want to lose the ability to televise that game and they want the game to be played on Friday like it always has? You know...the LSU Scenario.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:05 am to
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I really don't get what you people want him to do? Twist arms? Threaten to leave the conference? How would handle moving a game to Thanksgiving.


You flat out say, "No, we're not playing on Thanksgiving night." As is being pointed out, if Texas A&M can tell CBS when they will play their home games (in case you have reading comprehension problems, A&M moving the game to Thanksgiving night moves that game to ESPN and away from CBS), then LSU should be able to tell CBS that we aren't playing the 1:30 Friday game in Tiger Stadium as well.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:07 am to
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in th same breath tell LSU fans that their issues with the schedule are solely due to contract issues with CBS


When did they do this?

The A&M game moving to Thursday is the SEC's decision, nothing to do with CBS. Whether the following A&M game will be a Friday/Saturday game is a CBS decision and always has been. You might have a problem with the Friday game, but LSU has never had an issure with it.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20268 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:10 am to
yeah, i doubt at this point "90% of LSU fans" have a problem with the FRiday game. Back in the 90s it first struck me as non-traditional, but now I'm used to it. In fact, it has some plusses:

- guys have an excuse to get out of being dragged around malls on Black Friday
- frees me up to have no game-day jitters on the last big Saturday of the regular season. I can (usually) go into Saturday with the win under my belt and toggle between chores and watching the other big games.
Posted by Choupique19
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:15 am to
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When did they do this?


Joe Alleva said in the interview that is the top of this thread, "CBS dictates to us if we play on Friday or Saturday, and at what time." Straight from the horse's mouth.

Why isn't CBS dictating to A&M that this game be played on their network?

Something is very wrong here.
Posted by Mattgobear
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:18 am to
I like the Friday game because we would get an extra day to prepare for the SEC Championship game.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:20 am to
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No other school besides A&M had a dig in this hunt, and since we're a founding member should have a little more clout.
Nonsense. The television rights for a game on Thanksgiving get paid to the conference. So all 14 teams have an interest in the decision. The schools not involved in the game will vote for whatever results in the most money for the conference rather than who has been a member the longest.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:20 am to
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Joe Alleva said in the interview that is the top of this thread, "CBS dictates to us if we play on Friday or Saturday, and at what time." Straight from the horse's mouth.


Just as they dictate who plays at 2:30 every Saturday of the year, because they have first pick.

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Why isn't CBS dictating to A&M that this game be played on their network?


Because the SEC moved the game to Thursday. Just like in 2011 we played MSU on a Thursday, CBS didn't have an option to show the game.

Posted by RealityTiger
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:25 am to
I've said from day one that Alleva is a salesman type. But he has no balls, and no leadership skills. I know many people like him. He's great for getting shite done to the athletic facilities, terrible as a director when it comes to confrontation and/or being an ambassador for LSU going to war for the university at the SEC office.
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