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re: Alleva interview right now on 104.5.......

Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by TJG210
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:40 pm to
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managed to get us bye weeks before our two toughest games


Dumbass, what choice did they have for a bye before A&M? Make us play on Saturday? If A&M had to play that Saturday you may have a point, but all you're doing is making yourself look silly.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:41 pm to
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As far as bye weeks go nobody has it any easier or tougher than anyone else.




I'm not saying Alleva did anything to get those bye weeks and that the SEC office did us some huge service because we are LSU, but if you don't see how those 2 bye weeks for LSU come at a better time for LSU than the other 2 teams you are kind of a retard.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:43 pm to
Dude, Bama and A&M both have byes before they play us so it's not like we get some advantage over them out of it. The simple fact of the matter is that we got shoved into that game and got absolutely nothing in return.

NOTHING
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:44 pm to
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"Hey, I didn't want to play on Thanksgiving day either but I managed to at least get us bye week out of it." When we really didn't get anything out of it. A&M got to keep their Thanksgiving Day tradition and a bye week out of it. It's not like the SEC said "OK A&M, you get your Thanksgiving Day game but LSU gets a bye and you get yours before Auburn and whatever other shite team you play this year."


I mean, seriously, do you want the SEC to give us a plaque or something? Would that make you feel better? I still don't see how playing this game on Thanksgiving is so God-awful that we need "something" in return and aTm needs to give up "something". We were put in an, according to some, less-desirable situation by being put in this game that we may not 100% want, and managed to make the damage essentially non-existant by having a bye week before. Sorry it is inconvenient for you, bruh, because it doesn't change a damn thing for our team.

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Alleva is trying to piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining. Maybe your stupid enough to buy it but I'm not.


lulzzzz
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:45 pm to
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lulzzzz


GTFO with your grammar lesson.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:46 pm to
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Dude, Bama and A&M both have byes before they play us so it's not like we get some advantage over them out of it.



Yes we do. We have a bye against BOTH of them. Neither of them have that luxury against each other. I'm not saying this is some big kudos to Alleva because I think this pissing contest has gone full retard, but I don't see how anyone with half a brain can say that it doesn't benefit LSU more to have bye weeks against the two toughest teams in our own division as opposed to having one of our byes be before a team like Auburn or Arkansas.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:48 pm to
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Dumbass, what choice did they have for a bye before A&M? Make us play on Saturday? If A&M had to play that Saturday you may have a point, but all you're doing is making yourself look silly.


What does this shite even mean?

All I'm saying is that LSU has a bye week before it's two "toughest" games and the fact that the game is on Thanksgiving (a Thursday) is irrelevant because we now have the entire week before to prepare for it.

I don't give A FLYING frick when aTm has their bye weeks. We have ours before Bama and before we have to play on a Thursday against the likely 2nd toughest team on our schedule.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:48 pm to
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Yes we do. We have a bye against BOTH of them. Neither of them have that luxury against each other. I'm not saying this is some big kudos to Alleva because I think this pissing contest has gone full retard, but I don't see how anyone with half a brain can say that it doesn't benefit LSU more to have bye weeks against the two toughest teams in our own division as opposed to having one of our byes be before a team like Auburn or Arkansas.


But Bama and A&M both have byes against a common opponent and neither have one against each other. All things being equal no team has an easier road to the SEC championship than anyone else in terms of bye weeks.
Posted by Ray Kinsella
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:49 pm to
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Alleva interview right now on 104.5.......
i still think it was shortsighted to request a bye. Every other year now (save 2014) we basically have to play the entire season without a bye. that isnt smart.


Not true, 2014 is a "1 year schedule" but very likely will be similar through 2015. The schedules will be revisited before 2016 to revisit 6-1-1 or other as well as 9 vs 8 conference games.

Translation: there is no long term schedule plans in the SEC right now because of the changing dynamic of conference realignment and CFB Playoff, therefore, there is no way to be shortsighted.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:50 pm to
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I mean, seriously, do you want the SEC to give us a plaque or something? Would that make you feel better? I still don't see how playing this game on Thanksgiving is so God-awful that we need "something" in return and aTm needs to give up "something". We were put in an, according to some, less-desirable situation by being put in this game that we may not 100% want, and managed to make the damage essentially non-existant by having a bye week before. Sorry it is inconvenient for you, bruh, because it doesn't change a damn thing for our team.


If this were the only example, it wouldn't matter so much. But time after time, LSU has to accomodate other schools. Scheduling, game times, yada fricking yada. If we can't do anything about it, I at least want our AD to be the squeaky wheel. Enough of this get-along/go-along. If he wants to be best pals with the rest of the SEC, let him do it on his own time and his own dime. He's getting paid to represent LSU, so represent LSU, dammit!
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:51 pm to
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Answer: CBS can chose which game(s) it wants on a given weekend but it cannot/will not broadcast a Thursday game regardless of Thanksgiving or not. Furthermore, CBS has ZERO say on SEC scheduling, it DID NOT "give up" a good game and LET the A&M/LSU game move to Thursday, it had absolutely no say in the matter.


So when the Friday game originally got started, that wasn't CBS telling the SEC they wanted a Friday after Thanksgiving game...that was the SEC simply deciding they wanted a game on Friday and CBS jumped at the chance to televise it?

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We get two choices for return trip:

1) Play on T-giving at night in Tiger Stadium (at night but TD still implodes and breaks the internet)

2) Request it not played on T-giving and it's played based on normal TV requests (CBS vs ESPN)


Where is option #3...request it be played on Saturday? CBS could then decide if they want the Iron Bowl or LSU-A&M. If CBS isn't dictating game day placement, then why is LSU forced to eat the Friday slot rather than get a game on Saturday and CBS can either choose to broadcast or not?
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:51 pm to
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But Bama and A&M both have byes


WHO frickING CARES!? LSU's bye weeks are before its two biggest opponents. That's all that matters in this entire discussion.
Posted by danfraz
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:54 pm to
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We all know it's complex. We are just tired of getting the short end of the straw as we have in the last few years complex or not.


I have been specifically speaking about the thanksgiving night game. I agree with the short end of the straw argument last year and this year but this specific instance (thanksgiving night) is a bunch of whining and bitching from a rather selfish standpoint. Will fans that like to travel to away games be put out? Yes. Did A&M want the game to always be on thanksgiving? Yes. So the attitude that a&m got everything they wanted and LSU got shafted IN THIS ONE situation is just incorrect
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:58 pm to
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WHO frickING CARES!? LSU's bye weeks are before its two biggest opponents. That's all that matters in this entire discussion.


It would be one thing if A&M had a bye week before Bama and Bama didn't, or visa versa, but they don't. No team out of the three has a bye week advantage over the other three.

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That's all that matters in this entire discussion.


bullshite. At the beginning of this discussion people were bitching because of the game being played on Thanksgiving day. Then people like you came along and said "But hey, Alleva got us a bye week before so it's all cool." Now y'all are saying "Well, I agree Alleva didn't really do all that much but what else could he have done." So which is it? Did we get a special bye week that we weren't going to get? Because if that's the case then we would have had to play either Bama or A&M without a bye week even though they both have one for us. Or, Alleva did absolutely nothing when LSU was told they were playing on Thanksgiving Day.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:03 pm to
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Did A&M want the game to always be on thanksgiving? Yes. So the attitude that a&m got everything they wanted and LSU got shafted IN THIS ONE situation is just incorrect


If they wanted a game to always be on Thanksgiving they should have stayed their arse in the Big 12 and Texas would have accomodated them. Why do you think they should have any say so on when we schedule OUR home games?

If we can't have our tradition of playing night games preserved, why in the hell should we accomodate a school who just came into the conference keep theirs?
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 3:04 pm
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:05 pm to
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No team out of the three has a bye week advantage over the other three.


Never said anything about one team's bye week advantage over the other. All I ever said was that LSU's bye weeks are in the exact two spots that I and any rational human would pick.

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Then people like you came along and said "But hey, Alleva got us a bye week before so it's all cool." Now y'all are saying "Well, I agree Alleva didn't really do all that much but what else could he have done."


Hmm, I think you're so turned around and wrapped up in your own contrived arguments that you're not sure where to go next.

All I've ever said was that Alleva did everyting he could to turn a situation in which we are essentially forced to play a day earlier than we normally do, and help the team be able to succeed.

I'm not saying he did some unbelievable and heroic thing for LSU and we should bow down to him. He did his job. He ensured that even though we would be playing on Thanksgiving, we will have a bye week before and won't have a short week or rest.

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:06 pm to
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If they wanted a game to always be on Thanksgiving they should have stayed their arse in the Big 12 and Texas would have accomodated them. Why do you think they should have any say so on when we schedule OUR home games? If we can't have our tradition of playing night games preserved, why in the hell should we accomodate a school who just came into the conference keep theirs?


GAWWWDDDD. LSU fans do nothing but whine. GOSH!!!
Alleva got us a bye week. What more do you want. LSU never gets screwed. How dare you come on the internet and complain about it.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:06 pm to
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I agree with the short end of the straw argument last year and this year but this specific instance (thanksgiving night) is a bunch of whining and bitching from a rather selfish standpoint.


Well since I'm a season ticket holder/TAF donor I feel like since I'm paying money into the situation I can bitch/moan/gripe when I feel that our athletic director isn't acting in the best interest of the university/fans.

This is one instance, but the fact that we consistently get bent over by the league office and other schools is getting a little frustrating.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:11 pm to
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But Bama and A&M both have byes against a common opponent and neither have one against each other.




Correct. So they are on equal footing with each other.

However, LSU has an edge on both given that our byes are before Bama and A&M, the 2 most important games of the season
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:11 pm to
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If they wanted a game to always be on Thanksgiving they should have stayed their arse in the Big 12 and Texas would have accomodated them


Very rational thinking

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Why do you think they should have any say so on when we schedule OUR home games


Did they get their wish? Nope

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If we can't have our tradition of playing night games preserved, why in the hell should we accomodate a school who just came into the conference keep theirs


Playing at night means the world to us. No one else in the conference cares. Accept it. We play at night when CBS doesn't pick up the game. LSU never plays at home during the day on ESPN and I can't recall the last day jptv or whatever it's called now game.

I've said it too many times. I don't care for a road game on any Thursday night including thanksgiving but the we've been in conference longer argument is foolish
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