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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:45 am to
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:45 am to
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His hands were basically tied, as he was up against the SEC and aTm, and he did all he could in the interest of LSU's athletic program.


A&M- "Hey Joe, we are gonna play yall on thanksgiving day that cool?"
Joe- "Well im not sure guys, what do we get out of it?"
A-&M- "Nothing"
Joe- "Well if thats what you want I guess my hands are tied"
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:45 am to
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What possible reason would the SEC want to place a game in a time slot that is assured a smaller audience?


So you think this is all A&M's doing? You think the SEC, CBS, and LSU are all getting screwed in this deal, but still decided to go along with A&M wishes?
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:47 am to
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A&M- "Hey Joe, we are gonna play yall on thanksgiving day that cool?"
Joe- "Well im not sure guys, what do we get out of it?"
A-&M- "Nothing"
Joe- "Well if thats what you want I guess my hands are tied"


Jesus Christ
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:49 am to
Everyone who was involved in the decision has been quoted as saying A&M specifically requested to play on thanksgiving. Its not hard to understand
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:50 am to
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Everyone who was involved in the decision has been quoted as saying A&M specifically requested to play on thanksgiving. Its not hard to understand


Of course they did, that doesn't mean the SEC wasn't on board with it or that the entire SEC caved because it was only good for A&M.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:50 am to
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I don't claim to know their motivation behind the move, maybe it's a market/time slot they're trying to get into. I can't speak for their reasoning, I can only speak for what we know.


My only question in all this, which has remained unanswered, is that given we know CBS can and does dictate which games get played when and at what time (the Friday game was their deal from the get go) why on earth would they willingly give up the Friday game every other year so that A&M can play a game on Thanksgiving forcing CBS to lose the game? If CBS can be told to go piss up a rope in odd years, why can they be told the same in even?

I actually don't hate the Friday games, though I understand why some do. As I won't likely be making many trip to Aggieville, I have no dog in the fight about what day it's played there... As I said, my only real question is why it seems that A&M got precisely what it wanted, while LSU only seems to get a bye week the first time and who knows what later. I'm not seeing what A&M gave up in this negoation.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:50 am to
i still think it was shortsighted to request a bye. Every other year now (save 2014) we basically have to play the entire season without a bye. that isnt smart.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:52 am to
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Everyone who was involved in the decision has been quoted as saying A&M specifically requested to play on thanksgiving.


So, you think that LSU, the SEC and CBS wanted it to be on Friday or Saturday, but ONLY aTm wanted it on T-Giving so it got moved? Really?
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:52 am to
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i still think it was shortsighted to request a bye. Every other year now (save 2014) we basically have to play the entire season without a bye. that isnt smart.


I've only seen that the bye was requested for 2014. The SEC will meet again next year for the 2016 schedule.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:53 am to
So many Alleva balllickers in this thread. At the very least he should have demanded that our home games against A&M are Sat. night games. Or at least a garunteed number of SEC night home games per year.

Alleva doesn't get paid to do what's best for the SEC or CBS, which is apparently what most of you think he should be doing.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 10:56 am
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:55 am to
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So, you think that LSU, the SEC and CBS wanted it to be on Friday or Saturday, but ONLY aTm wanted it on T-Giving so it got moved? Really?


Do you really think there was NOTHING Alleva could do? Really?
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:56 am to
you hold out hope it will be any different in 2016, i wont though.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:57 am to
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you hold out hope it will be any different in 2016, i wont though.


Why do some even think that it isnt possible we start playing our home game on thanksgiving?
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:58 am to
ha i mean i have zero faith in alleva now when it comes to scheduling, but i would hope even he isnt THAT incompetent.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:59 am to
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So you think this is all A&M's doing? You think the SEC, CBS, and LSU are all getting screwed in this deal, but still decided to go along with A&M wishes?


In what way would this be CBS's call? They have traditionally gotten 2 games that weekend, Friday and Saturday. they pay huge dollars to the SEC for the rights to televise these games so that they can charge huge ad rates. We also know that, given how many times we've been told this when complaints arise, that CBS gets to make these calls. So...in what way does CBS benefit from A&M playing a game on a day that CBS can not/will not televise the game?

In what way does playing on Thanksgiving benefit LSU? Regardless of whether or not you agree with the arguments for why it sucks, is there any reason why this would be a net positive for LSU? You can't even point to a larger audience, because the game will be up against a prime time NFL game.

As for the SEC, I'm not saying they are getting screwed. They may well be indifferent to when this game gets played. The only concern I'd have is how this works with the current deal the SEC has with CBS. Has anyone heard anyone address how/why CBS has seemingly willingly given up their hold on what would normally be the Friday game in college station?

A&M gets precisely what it wants. Unless we ought to give them some sort of credit for agreeing to not playing the return game on Thanksgiving in Tiger Stadium, in not seeing how they didn't get 100% of what it was they wanted from this situation.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 11:00 am to
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My only question in all this, which has remained unanswered, is that given we know CBS can and does dictate which games get played when and at what time (the Friday game was their deal from the get go) why on earth would they willingly give up the Friday game every other year so that A&M can play a game on Thanksgiving forcing CBS to lose the game? If CBS can be told to go piss up a rope in odd years, why can they be told the same in even?


No one knows the answer to this unless they were in on negotiations. But if you think that the SEC and CBS just simply bowed down to aTm, then I'm not sure what to tell you.

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As I said, my only real question is why it seems that A&M got precisely what it wanted, while LSU only seems to get a bye week the first time and who knows what later.


Again, there is literally no way that the SEC, if they were opposed to the game being on T-giving for whatever reason, that they would allow it to happen just because aTm asked. They have reasons. Reasons none of us really know, but we can specualte about until we're blue in the face.

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I'm not seeing what A&M gave up in this negoation


Why do they have to give something up? We got something we wanted, a bye week before the game, so it doesn't screw up our schedule. Also, we won't be playing on thanksgiving in Tiger Stadium next year.
Posted by bbap
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 11:02 am to
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Reasons none of us really know, but we can specualte about until we're blue in the face.


then our AD should address it and clear it up. Because that shite needs to be explained.

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We got something we wanted, a bye week before the game


oh joy!
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 11:02 am to
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So, you think that LSU, the SEC and CBS wanted it to be on Friday or Saturday, but ONLY aTm wanted it on T-Giving so it got moved? Really?


LSU and CBS for 100% didn't want this. A&M 100% wanted this, and the SEC helped them out.

Then Joe Alleva said on the radio that CBS dictates what time and what day LSU plays A&M at home.

BS, CBS got told by A&M that they weren't televising their game.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 11:02 am to
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Again, there is literally no way that the SEC, if they were opposed to the game being on T-giving for whatever reason, that they would allow it to happen just because aTm asked. They have reasons. Reasons none of us really know, but we can specualte about until we're blue in the face.


Why can't we know. Is it some sort of state secret. If it's fair and equitable then why not just tell everyone the reasons.

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Why do they have to give something up? We got something we wanted, a bye week before the game, so it doesn't screw up our schedule. Also, we won't be playing on thanksgiving in Tiger Stadium next year.


Do you honestly believe we won't be playing on thanksgiving in the following years?
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 11:02 am to
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But if you think that the SEC and CBS just simply bowed down to aTm, then I'm not sure what to tell you


Well clearly it wasnt up to CBS since they wont/cant televise the thanksgiving game. They lose in this scenario just like we do. So it is clear A&M made a demand and the SEC went along with it bc Alleva did as well.

Why can CBS "dictate" the day and time we play, but A&M can tell them they are playing on thursday and CBS be forced not to get that game?
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 11:05 am
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