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re: All we need is good QB play right?
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:57 am to Not Cooper
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:57 am to Not Cooper
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don't act like you didn't edit that post to say "even Jarrett Lee looked alright his senior year." You definitely had him in with the good crop when I read it. Also, not one statistic has shown that Lee was the better option so I'm not sure what you are talking about
Nothing but biased opinion. I've been going back and forth with fricking retards that act like JLEE was Peyton fricking manning and JJ was the worst qb in lsu history.
While starting just over 2 years worth of games JJ is top 6 in every major passing ranking in lsu history and JLEE is no where to be found.
JJ is top 6 in
Wins
Passing yards
Compl%
Passing tds
Career qb rating
Single season qb rushing record holder
Career qb rushing record holder
But yeah JLEE was better
This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 8:02 am
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:10 am to Rickdaddy4188
Yea I'm about done with this. My initial argument was that Lee shouldn't have been on the field 1/9 and then people started crowning him king of the world acting like he was beating teams by himself, like we didn't have one of the best defenses in LSU history on the other side of the ball.
Anyway, I'm excited for this regular season and tired of talking about a game that was 4 years ago.
Anyway, I'm excited for this regular season and tired of talking about a game that was 4 years ago.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:11 am to dukke v
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Lets see..LSU's record in games LEE started???8-0
Games which JJ started??? 4-1....
Peej, come on now.
LSU's record with Lee was 8-0 and then he got pulled because he couldn't beat Bama
LSU's record with JJ was 5-0 and then he got completely embarrassed by Bama
This is really just splitting hairs. Both guys showed they could beat quality teams all year. Neither could beat the best team I've seen at the collegiate level in my lifetime.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:18 am to Not Cooper
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I'm about done with this. My initial argument was that Lee shouldn't have been on the field 1/9 and then people started crowning him king of the world acting like he was beating teams by himself, like we didn't have one of the best defenses in LSU history on the other side of the ball.
I actually wanted lee to remain the starter. I believed he had earned that right. But this notion that our offense went to shite once JJ became the starter is just not factual. People just want it to be true. If Lee wasn't getting pressured he was the better passer of the 2 but it was this substantial diff
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It's the same thing with people saying Flynn was a great qb and JJ sucked his entire career yet JJ had 2 seasons where his qb rating was higher than Flynn's in 2007. They just want it to be true so much.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:21 am to Rickdaddy4188
I hope your other son has a good season this year.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:29 am to CptBengal
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hope your other son has a good season this year.
Stating facts. Sorry you don't like those facts but that's what they
Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:31 am to Rickdaddy4188
I really do. I hope he plays well.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:41 am to CptBengal
I actually prefer my qbs to be a pocket passer. If we are gonna run the ball I'd rather it be with a rb. But that's doesn't make me blind or ignorant to FACTS. it's not my opinion that JJ is ranked in the top 6 alltime in every major passing statistic , IT'S A FACT. it's amazing how you don't like that fact
Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:43 am to Rickdaddy4188
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It's the same thing with people saying Flynn was a great qb and JJ sucked his entire career yet JJ had 2 seasons where his qb rating was higher than Flynn's in 2007.
Yea the difference is we were chucking the ball about 30 times a game with Flynn as QB. We kind of just let him sling it as opposed to having to manage how many times we let JJ and Lee throw the ball. Micro-managing your QB's like that will naturally lead to higher ratings, which is why both JJ and Lee had pretty high ratings at times.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:47 am to Rickdaddy4188
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OK then JJ is the 5th best qb in lsu history since he is ranked 5th in wins as a starting qb
But IN 2011....LEE had a better record as the starter,,2011 is what we are talking about..........
And grow up and stop the name calling....Just cause you are proven wrong doesn't mean you have to act 13 and throw a temper tantrum........
Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:56 am to Rickdaddy4188
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It's the same thing with people saying Flynn was a great qb and JJ sucked his entire career yet JJ had 2 seasons where his qb rating was higher than Flynn's in 2007
You do realize there is more to being a good SEC QB than just stats right????? I mean like having control of everything in the huddle, and having COMMAND of the offense and knowing where your players are supposed to be on each play...Those kinds of things.... Flynn had this JJ did not.... There is a reason that JJ had to look to the sideline almost every play... Flynn did not do this near as much arse JJ...Reason??? Miles had way more confidence in flynn than he did JJ... Hence Flynn was the better QB.... This year would be nice to see Harris NOT have to look at the sideline everyplay.. I don't see the reason for it unless they are calling plays from the sideline after the D lines up... The element of SURPRISE seems o go away y doing this imo......
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:03 am to dukke v
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I mean like having control of everything in the huddle, and having COMMAND of the offense and knowing where your players are supposed to be on each play
Every quarterback in every no huddle/hurry up offense ever has looked to the sidelines for play calls.
Damn I quoted the wrong sentance.. Oh well lol
This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 11:05 am
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:16 pm to Rickdaddy4188
There was a huge gap between them. Did you not notice that in 8 games under Lee we absolutely destroyed our opponents and didn't even have a close game and when JJ came back our offense suddenly went anemic and we only scored 14 points in the first half vs Western Kentucky? I could give a frick about their career stats, Lee was the better QB statistically and functionally in 2011, take your twisted stats and shove them up your arse. And you act like Miles has never made a fricked up personnel decision before you're a joke
you're a jokePosted on 7/10/15 at 12:21 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Are you seriously comparing Jordan fricking Jefferson to Matt Flynn? Flynn had these things called intangibles and leadership. The fact that you're saying that "I don't know anything about football" but blindly throwing around stats to say that a FAR shittier QB was comparable to one of the best game managers I've seen at LSU in my lifetime shows how delusional you are
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:43 pm to southeasttiger113
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Are you seriously comparing Jordan fricking Jefferson to Matt Flynn?
The dude is WAY out there..........
quote:
Flynn had these things called intangibles and leadership
These are NOT stats so he won't understand what you are saying... He thinks stats are the only thing that determines a quality QB... Flynn was awesome in 2007 as the LEADER of the offense...JJ NEVER mastered this his whole career....
quote:
The fact that you're saying that "I don't know anything about football
He is on that long river in Egypt.........
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:52 pm to dukke v
The fact that his name is rickdaddy and JJ's younger brother's name is Ricky is pretty weird to me I love how this guy keeps saying "FACTS" like he's hitting a home run with every post but the facts that he's posting have nothing to do with Lee or Jefferson in 2011.
The average kickoff distance was 6 yards further in the games that Lee started. FACTS. Our special teams ran more efficiently under Lee than JJ, therefore Lee was the better QB. FACTS, YOU CAN'T DISPUTE FACTS.
I love how this guy keeps saying "FACTS" like he's hitting a home run with every post but the facts that he's posting have nothing to do with Lee or Jefferson in 2011. The average kickoff distance was 6 yards further in the games that Lee started. FACTS. Our special teams ran more efficiently under Lee than JJ, therefore Lee was the better QB. FACTS, YOU CAN'T DISPUTE FACTS.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 1:00 pm to southeasttiger113
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The average kickoff distance was 6 yards further in the games that Lee started. FACTS
Posted on 7/10/15 at 1:06 pm to southeasttiger113
Posted on 7/10/15 at 1:32 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
In 2011 the only reason JLEE has the edge IS BECAUSE OF PASS ATTEMPS .
So it's Lee's fault JJ was a total frick up and spent the first part of the season being a distraction to the team??? makes sense!
Posted on 7/10/15 at 2:41 pm to southeasttiger113
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Did you not notice that in 8 games under Lee we absolutely destroyed our opponents and didn't even have a close game and when JJ came back our offense suddenly went anemic and we only scored 14 points in the first half vs Western Kentucky?
Halftime scores
Oregon 17-13
MSST 6-3
Kentucky 14-0
Tennessee 17-7
Auburn 21-7
Alabama 3-3
Putting away teams in the second half is what LSU did that year.
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