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re: Aleva is ruining LSU sports for me.

Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by Moarbenchespeaze
Member since Mar 2019
330 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:43 pm to
Prove it.

You cant.

And you wont.

When that comes to lightSU Basketball and maybe even athletics as a whole will burn for not having his back.

Thank GOD you aren't a defense lawyer. I mean seriously if there is a god I'm thankful you are a tard instead of a defense attorney.

In our nation you must prove guilt. The NCAA wishes to play a fine line here by all means go ahead. They will be opening Pandora box which they can't put back in.

LSU could have played chicken all day and won. Wait to see what they do to Arizona and Kansas and why Zion declined the deal of a lifetime for free at Duke when Kansas preseason was an unanimous #1 with azubuke and Vick before injury.

They chose to play it as stupid as possible. As retarded as humanly possible to bury their own arse. So much incompetence it defied rationale.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:46 pm to
“ I appreciate Alleva doing everything he can to keep the program free of sanctions”

You do realize that if LSU should face any sanctions, they will come due to a coach hired by Alleva less than 2 yes ago. His third failed attempt to hire a adequate basketball coach for LSU in 3 tries: I don’t see much to appreciate, but each to our own.
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Moarbenchespeaze
Member since Mar 2019
330 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:48 pm to
I'll add, see how that worked for Mizzou? They got put on full blast for their moral high ground.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20149 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:56 pm to
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All Aleva had to do is trust in his coach and back him, as any boss worth is salt would do.
surely you’re kidding.

Wades on tape buying players, and Wade won’t explain to his boss.

No trust is warranted.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
5225 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:03 pm to
At this point, Joe Dean would be an improvement.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:12 pm to
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All Aleva had to do is trust in his coach and back him, as any boss worth is salt would do.


Not at anyplace I ever worked. If a employee created the slightest suspicion that they did something that would violate the rules of a regulatory agency that would endanger licenses or certifications the company needed to operate, they would be put on immediate leave until the situation is sorted out. The World of business is not a court of law, you are absolutely guilty until proven otherwise, and no single employee is more important than the business.
Posted by C3W
East Narnia
Member since May 2009
1513 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:15 pm to
Hell yeah. Fire Alleva
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4578 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:20 pm to
It is not Alleva. I do not care for him either. But this situation is the President and the Board of Supervisors. There was a planned and executed and timed hit piece on WW and LSU basketball. Our leadership choked. Should have just stared them down.
Posted by Tigressa del Norte
Seattle
Member since Jan 2009
3099 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:31 pm to
From the info out there, I agree. The admins overreacted and blew an awesome season. Heads should roll. The sad part is that it isn’t over.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20149 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:09 am to
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Not at anyplace I ever worked. If a employee created the slightest suspicion that they did something that would violate the rules of a regulatory agency that would endanger licenses or certifications the company needed to operate, they would be put on immediate leave until the situation is sorted out. The World of business is not a court of law, you are absolutely guilty until proven otherwise, and no single employee is more important than the business
this is 100% correct. Finally, a mature adult on this board who knows how the real world works.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89772 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:15 am to
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Will Wade screwed things up and put the program in a bad light. Instead of taking responsibility he is "me, me me" by demanding to coach again instead of wishing the team well and holding any other comment back until after the trial.


Wow, you are so out of touch.

LSU has a history of PR nightmare under Alleva. This is just another on his long list of frick ups at LSU and Duke.

fricker backed his buddy baseball coach giving players steroids. You know, actual cheating.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89772 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:19 am to
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Of course, here, the employer allowed the employee a chance to explain. The employee refused.


This is false. Wade talked to them months ago and still states he didn't do business with Dawkins. Everything else is LSU railroading him. And a fricking PR spin
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5845 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:22 am to
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Not at anyplace I ever worked. If a employee created the slightest suspicion that they did something that would violate the rules of a regulatory agency that would endanger licenses or certifications the company needed to operate, they would be put on immediate leave until the situation is sorted out. The World of business is not a court of law, you are absolutely guilty until proven otherwise, and no single employee is more important than the business

this is 100% correct. Finally, a mature adult on this board who knows how the real world works.



Actually....... you children obviously don't know how the "Real" world works.

The reality is that in order to win in major college sports, you have to provide benefits to top shelf players (and their families) to play at your school. Everyone knows it except naive, ignorant people.

College Administrations know damn full well this is going on, but simply don't want their coaches to be caught doing it.

So....... since everyone, including F King and Alleva, knew damn full well this stuff is going on, then when their coach does get caught (but, still can't be "legally" proven that it happened, you support him fully. You don't require your coach to come into a meeting full of entrapment that can expose him legally.
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 10:23 am
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:23 am to
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mmcgrath
you’re a bleeding heart libtard. You live in and with corruptions and don’t give a frick so long as the liberal narrative and mentally deranged propaganda is pushed forward so don’t come here with your holier than thou schtick. You’re full of crap!
Posted by Amyylove
Carlsbad, CA
Member since Dec 2007
425 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:30 am to
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I'll always love LSU but its getting harder and harder to stay emotionally invested.


That is on you.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:41 am to
It's like Aleva finds the best pieces of the LSU experience, or potential success, and he puts a dagger in it . I swear the man does not give 2 shits about LSU, and especially not about tradition or fans. He is a cancer to the University and he reports to an even worse Cancer.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:48 am to
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I'll add, see how that worked for Mizzou? They got put on full blast for their moral high ground.



Why use Mizzou as an example? Why not use the example of Akiem Hicks and DJ McCarthy, because it doesn't fit your narrative? Those were major recruiting violations that LSU self-reported and avoided major sanctions. LSU didn't wait for the NCAA to do an investigation and find out for themselves, they were proactive.

The problem with coming up with examples of where self-reporting resulted in minor sanctions is that no one remembers because a major catastrophe was averted and thus it becomes a non-story.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12956 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:57 am to
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All Aleva had to do is trust in his coach and back him, as any boss worth is salt would do.



All Wade had to do was demonstrate he was worthy of trust by declaring his total and complete innocence.
Further, managers and leaders support folks when they are right or when evidence is on the side that they did the right thing. They suspend, discipline or fire those who put the company, organization etc at risk.
The Harvard Business Review, a respected management periodical, once did a piece on "The Tempermental Talent" which discussed handling a talented but difficult employee. As you might expect, there comes a point where you might have to take the extraordinary step of severing your relationship. This obviously is a classic risk-benefit analysis.
We really don't know the details but it's hard to blindly back Wade, even given the current state of LSU's leadership.
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 11:08 am
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:05 am to
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All Wade had to do was demonstrate he was worthy of trust by declaring his total and complete innocence.

This.

Wade goes through the trouble of releasing a public statement. Was the statement to proclaim his innocence? No, it was to say he wants to coach in the post-season. Why the frick does he need to release a statement just to say he wants to coach? Did anyone not know that? No, everyone knows he wants to coach. That was a ridiculous and stupid statement to make. What everyone doesn't know is if Wade is guilty of infractions. Wade releasing a statement simply to say, "I have been in full compliance with all applicable NCAA rules while the coach of the LSU basketball team." would NOT put him or the FBI investigation at risk. He should have taken that meeting with the LSU admin and the NCAA just to say, "I have not violated any rules, but I cannot speak on the details due to the on-going investigation."

WHY WON'T WADE DENY GUILT?

Wade is not doing himself any favors, and indeed is making himself look guilty even if he's not. He has not given LSU one single reason to re-instate him.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18110 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:10 am to
I agree with you 100%. The current LSU Administration is wreaking havoc not only on the program but, our standing within the SEC. Remember the field we had with UF over the hurricane game. We ended up look8ng like complete A holes over that. Now, UF is a rival where they are kicking our asses in just about everything like they did in the 90’s.

Also, remember that they wrecked TGBFTL a few years ago. They forced them to downsize and they fired the director. He then sued them and won a settlement. I’m a former member so I hold that organization in high regard.

Alleva and F. king Alexander need to go. I don’t support either of the,.
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