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re: Alabama WR Holden was with Koy Moore Saturday night
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:27 pm to J2thaROC
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:27 pm to J2thaROC
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Except it doesn’t.
Ever hear of Michael Brown? What about Jussie Smollett? We could go on and on. History has taught us not to automatically believe the first things you hear in these situations.
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:28 pm to GoneFishing21
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Use your imagination. There are certain ways people present themselves that are common amongst people who live a criminal lifestyle. There’s not one set appearance and I wasn’t implying there was. This is a reality. It doesn’t have anything to do with skin color if that’s what your implication is.
Really? Because I’m pretty sure you never thought Jeffrey Epstein was a criminal in any way before the shite hit the fan with him. So tell us again what a criminal “looks like”, Heinrich Müller.
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:29 pm to J2thaROC
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And there in is the real problem. No one should be getting shot by police for RUNNING AWAY.
No one is
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:31 pm to GoneFishing21
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Ever hear of Michael Brown? What about Jussie Smollett? We could go on and on. History has taught us not to automatically believe the first things you hear in these situations.
Yes, I have. But that’s still anecdotal evidence. I could point to several where the opposite was true. The point is, neither side should be given any credibility over the other until further evidence is presented. Both sides are just as capable of telling a lie.
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:32 pm to J2thaROC
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Really? Because I’m pretty sure you never thought Jeffrey Epstein was a criminal in any way before the shite hit the fan with him. So tell us again what a criminal “looks like”, Heinrich Müller.
Never knew who he was. I bet plenty of people observed things about him that caused them to think he may be the guy he was.
Good try though.
Just pick a random white guy and try to make it into a race thing. Some of y’all can’t think about anything besides skin color.
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:33 pm to GoneFishing21
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:33 pm to J2thaROC
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Yes, I have. But that’s still anecdotal evidence. I could point to several where the opposite was true. The point is, neither side should be given any credibility over the other until further evidence is presented. Both sides are just as capable of telling a lie.
So stop implying racism in all things and wait until you have some evidence of it
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:34 pm to GoneFishing21
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Some of y’all can’t think about anything besides skin color.
Some of us aren’t in here saying we know what a criminal looks like either.
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:35 pm to GoneFishing21
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So stop implying racism in all things and wait until you have some evidence of it
I didn’t imply racism. I just pointed out yours by the fact that by your own statement you said you’d be more likely to just take the cops word for it over the individuals.
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:36 pm to J2thaROC
Walter Scott is one example and he just finished fighting with a police officer twice right before that. The officer drew on him at the same time Walter Scott had disarmed him of his taser. If you watched the video then you would see they were about a step away from each other when the officer decided to draw and fire. Walter Scott had just turned and started to run and yes he was shot in the back. However, to use that as an example and say black people are being shot by police just for running is dishonest at the very least.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 4:35 am
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:39 pm to SammyTiger
Running from the cops. 
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:39 pm to J2thaROC
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I didn’t imply racism. I just pointed out yours by the fact that by your own statement you said you’d be more likely to just take the cops word for it over the individuals
And that shows my racism? That makes so much sense. I was pointing out that the vast majority of the times something makes the news or social media, the first thing reported about it is not accurate or leaves out important details that end up being released later by who? Usually the police and other credible witnesses like the black residents who corroborated the officers story about Michael Brown in Ferguson. This happens time and time again. You just use racism to try and win an argument because you think it’s a catch all. It isn’t.
And you have implied racism was involved in the Moore incident and others in multiple threads. You’ve also tried to imply multiple posters are racist just because you can’t justify your positions
I guess you and a few others haven’t heard of criminal profiling. I never once mentioned or implied skin color. It’s your ignorance that is showing through and if you can’t profile any criminal behavior at all then I wouldn’t feel safe being in your family if you’re that unaware.
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:59 pm to wally
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And here is the problem in the country right now. Absolutely no common sense.
When you were underage and cops busted a house party, did y’all just sit and politely wait to get arrested? Or just never go to parties?
Koy is 18/19, so just holding a beer potentially gets him in legal trouble. Legal trouble isn’t good for any kid, especially a high profile fball player.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 12:51 am to GoneFishing21
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And you have implied racism was involved in the Moore incident and others in multiple threads. You’ve also tried to imply multiple posters are racist just because you can’t justify your positions
Show me these posts.
I’ve yet to jump on any side of this particular case, unlike you. I actually have no position on this case. I just find it humorous that you can’t evdn entertain the idea that maybe, just maybe, Moore’s reporting of this incident is EXACTLY how it happened. It shows just how disconnected you really are that you can’t fathom that this could possibly be true.
Tell me something. What does Moore have to gain from making this story up? He’s not trying to beat an arrest because he was never arrested. Wouldn’t making this story up cause far more damage to himself at this point? Let’s say for the sake of argument he was doing something illegal. The cops involved obviously let him go. So what does he gain? In fact, he’s now cost himself because if there happens to be a next time, you think the cops are going to just let him go after this?
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I guess you and a few others haven’t heard of criminal profiling. I never once mentioned or implied skin color. It’s your ignorance that is showing through and if you can’t profile any criminal behavior at all then I wouldn’t feel safe being in your family if you’re that unaware.
Tell me. What was he doing that was “criminal behavior”? Since you already know so much about this case. Give me specifics of his “criminal behavior”.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 12:56 am to GoneFishing21
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Walter Scott is one example and he just finished fighting with a police officer twice right before that. The officer drew on him at the same time Walter Scott had disarmed him of his taser. If you watched the video then you would see they were about a step away from each other when the officer decided to draw and fire. Walter Scott had just turned and started to run and yes he was shot in the back. However, to use that as an example and say black people are being shot by police just for running is disingenuous at the very least.
Is it though? An officer is only allowed to discharge their weapon when either they themselves or another civilian is in immediate danger of their life. A taser is not a lethal weapon. The ONLY reason the officer in this case did not get a murder charge was because he agreed to a plea bargain.
Try again.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 1:08 am to J2thaROC
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I didn’t imply racism
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Yeah that’s not a racist comment at all.
GTFO already with your agenda
Posted on 11/13/20 at 2:12 am to J2thaROC
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Is it though? An officer is only allowed to discharge their weapon when either they themselves or another civilian is in immediate danger of their life. A taser is not a lethal weapon. The ONLY reason the officer in this case did not get a murder charge was because he agreed to a plea bargain.
Try again.
Try again
An officer can shoot someone who disarms them of their taser. There is a threat of incapacitation. You keep moving the goalposts. The fact is that you brought up Walter Scott as an example that cops are shooting people simply for running from them. That’s false and Walter Scott is not an example of it.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 2:37 am to J2thaROC
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Show me these posts.
Gladly
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I’ve yet to jump on any side of this particular case, unlike you. I actually have no position on this case. I just find it humorous that you can’t evdn entertain the idea that maybe, just maybe, Moore’s reporting of this incident is EXACTLY how it happened. It shows just how disconnected you really are that you can’t fathom that this could possibly be true.
It’s been clear what side you’re on and you’re flat out lying. I’ve never not entertained the idea. It’s very evident to everyone but you that even if what Moore said is true, it’s not a detailed account of the story. It leaves so many unanswered questions and gives no context to the situation. It shows how disconnected with reality you are that you think that cops are running around pointing guns at people for no reason which you say in another post. Cops aren’t doing that and that’s one of the main reasons I would like to hear all the evidence. That, and common sense of course.
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Tell me something. What does Moore have to gain from making this story up? He’s not trying to beat an arrest because he was never arrested. Wouldn’t making this story up cause far more damage to himself at this point? Let’s say for the sake of argument he was doing something illegal. The cops involved obviously let him go. So what does he gain? In fact, he’s now cost himself because if there happens to be a next time, you think the cops are going to just let him go after this?
I didn’t say he made up the story, but let’s go with that. Why have many other people made up similar stories that turned out to either not be true or only a tiny portion of what actually happened? You tell me? If what happens again? He didn’t commit a crime so they would still have to let him go even if it happened again. What are you implying? They’re going to kidnap him? I don’t get it.
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Tell me. What was he doing that was “criminal behavior”? Since you already know so much about this case. Give me specifics of his “criminal behavior”.
You don’t follow very well. I was commenting on a hypothetical situation and never said that Moore committed any criminal behavior. You don’t think criminal behavior is even a thing though. You clearly think everything is about ones skin color.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 4:23 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 2:58 am to J2thaROC
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Show me these posts.
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You must have information that no one else does. What did they do wrong?
“Pretty sure cops can’t just run around pointing guns at innocent civilians.”
What’s the implication here if you aren’t implying the officers did this?
“I’ve never had that happen to me as a white person and i’d be willing to bet nobody else here has either or even knows any white person that has had that happen to them. Especially not with police with guns drawn on them. “
No you sure didn’t imply racism was involved.
“Most of this board has already convicted him of several crimes for reasons they won’t explicitly say”
You explain your implication here in light of your other statements. What are their supposed reasons that they won’t say?
“Maybe if many of you would stop marching in streets and carrying tiki torches you wouldn’t be called racist.”
Really? You take one event with a relatively small group of people, who were chanting about Jews by the way, and imply white people wouldn’t be called racist if they’d just stop doing this? It doesn’t even deserve a response because it’s that absurd.
How about when I said racism is a serious accusation and your response was
“Is it really? Really? I can’t think of anyone who was called a racist who had their lives ruined who wasn’t ACTUALLY A RACIST”
This shows how you’re willing to just throw the term out there any place you think it may stick and you don’t care whether it’s appropriate or not. I’ll give you a tip. When you use things in that way, they lose their value. It tends to delegitimize actual occurrences because people get tired of hearing about it and called something that they clearly aren’t by people like you.
Then there is when you called me a racist without evidence. You have plenty of examples and you can go back and look further on your own. You don’t need my help. You know the things you’re saying in here. I actually feel bad for you that you use racism as a crutch for everything. It’s okay, man. You don’t have to feel guilty.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 3:54 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 4:12 am to J2thaROC
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It’s a fact that it’s not against the law to run when you see a cop. I’m not sure what idiotic road you were attempting to go down with this comment.
wow. So you know he doesn’t see you and see you running? That’s probable cause moron if a cop is called to a scene. Innocent people don’t run. Damn. What if he is behind you and his lights are on while headed in the same direction?
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 4:13 am
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