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re: After watching bowls, LSU and Bama are clearly two best teams
Posted on 1/3/12 at 2:45 pm to texastigerr
Posted on 1/3/12 at 2:45 pm to texastigerr
Okie State beats bama easy and so might Stanford.
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Posted on 1/3/12 at 2:50 pm to Tiger Nation 84
After watching bowls, LSU and Bama are clearly two best teams on the defensive side of the ball for sure.
Posted on 1/3/12 at 3:07 pm to NorthTiger
If the BCS's goal/objective is to have 2 best teams play in championship game they got it right.
However, if the BCS's goal/objective is to determine an undisputed national champion, they failed miserably and OSU should be playing LSU.
Fortunatley for the BCS, LSU will kick the shite out of Bama and bail their fail asses out.
However, if the BCS's goal/objective is to determine an undisputed national champion, they failed miserably and OSU should be playing LSU.
Fortunatley for the BCS, LSU will kick the shite out of Bama and bail their fail asses out.
Posted on 1/3/12 at 3:09 pm to NorthTiger
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After watching bowls, LSU and Bama are clearly two best teams on the defensive side of the ball for sure.
You'd have a tough time finding many people that disagreed with this statement
Posted on 1/3/12 at 3:17 pm to ClientNumber9
i agree with everything you say. while i haven't watched all of the games i watched the ones with the highest ranking teams (so far). the thing i observed is that their defenses just do not match up to what LSU and BAMA put on the field. i saw some very good passing offenses and while some ran a lot of yards, i didn't see any real power running teams (stanford was the best i saw). it's simply that the spread, when employed against a mediocre defense will score points and score them fast. ball possession is just not a factor they use. imo, that type of football diminishes the effect of a score and if a team settles for a FG in the first half that could be the decisive "stop" of the game. i like our style better; old fashion blood and guts, nasty arse, in your face REAL FOOTBALL.
Posted on 1/3/12 at 3:20 pm to Geauxld Rush
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However, if the BCS's goal/objective is to determine an undisputed national champion,
no such thing. the basketball tournament doesn't either. a playoff might not either. and, the BCS's clear and stated objective is to pit the 2 best teams in the nation in the championship game. i thing your post clearly points out the problem with the BCS and with the fans; it only determines the undisputed national champion by chance.
Posted on 1/3/12 at 3:22 pm to ClientNumber9
thanks for stating the obvious
Posted on 1/3/12 at 3:46 pm to ClientNumber9
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Well, I was a little butt hurt for several weeks and didn't feel Bama deserved to be there. Now I have finally just accepted it. And after watching these horrendous defenses and gimmicky offenses shitting all over my tv this bowl season, I'm now completely onboard
I can relate somewhat. I truly felt Bama was the 2nd best team, just didnt feel like they deserved to be rewarded for not winning thier confer. much less thier division... but, looking back, its satisfying to know we will be playing the best out there... as evidenced by the bowl play thus far.
Posted on 1/3/12 at 4:11 pm to Gravitiger
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No, it's not. The expressly stated purpose of the BCS is "to ensure that the two top-rated teams in the country meet in the national championship game, and to create exciting and competitive matchups among eight other highly regarded teams in four other bowl games." That is exactly what it did, and what it does every year--put the two "top-rated" teams into the title game. By its own definition, the BCS achieving its stated purpose is a self-fulfilling prophecy every year.
You quote how the BCS works, not the reason it was created. Of course #1 meets #2. As you point out, it's a self fulfilling prophecy.
In the bowl era, the MNC was determined by polls, with little (usually zero) overlap in the contenders' schedules, much less head to head match-ups. The objective of the BCS was to improve upon this by having the MNC determined on the field of play, rather than in a poll.
In fact, in the bowl ear, if there was a head-to-head match-up, this eliminated the controversy. That was one of the original complaints about the BCS - it reduced the incentive for teams to schedule tough OOC games against other premier teams - the "other" way to have the MNC determined on the field of play, and thus accomplished little while diminishing the bowl season.
Since, at the time, if there had been head-to-head match-ups during the season, there was no controversy, so the assumption was that "determining the MNC on the field, rather than in a beauty contest" was the same thing as pitting #1 vs #2. This was the reality the BCS intended to IMPROVE, not MAKE WORSE. With a re-match, not only do we destroy the original purpose of the BCS, but we make things worse.
This season, the football world would have been better served by LSU playing Stanford or somebody in the Sugar, while Alabama played Oklahoma in the Fiesta or something, as though the BCS never existed. Thus, the BCS made things worse by creating a re-match.
Posted on 1/3/12 at 4:14 pm to ClientNumber9
...Oklahoma State could beat 'Bama . Truly. ... 
Posted on 1/3/12 at 5:36 pm to DrunkTigerBaiter
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I doubt that you'll be saying this if we lose
So, LSU losing makes the two teams playing NOT the best two teams in the nation...
There is no doubt these are the two best teams in the nation.
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