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re: After viewing the spring game, how much blame did Gary Crowton deserve?
Posted on 4/11/11 at 10:51 pm to EricB
Posted on 4/11/11 at 10:51 pm to EricB
yea, go ahead idiot boy (eric b.) go ahead and attack the winningest coach in lsu history.
well, at least we now know you are a looser. you look at life from a looser's perspective. you just posted an article about loosing b/c that is all you know.
either, find a better perspective or continue to be attacked by me.
well, at least we now know you are a looser. you look at life from a looser's perspective. you just posted an article about loosing b/c that is all you know.
either, find a better perspective or continue to be attacked by me.
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Posted on 4/11/11 at 10:53 pm to EricB
eric, do you have any brothers or cousins that claim to be rocket scientists? just curious...
Posted on 4/11/11 at 10:54 pm to EricB
frick dude, it could be all of Les' offense, but it was a damn scrimmage, you won't know much of anything from that.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 10:55 pm to ForeLSU
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eric, do you have any brothers or cousins that claim to be rocket scientists? just curious...
Posted on 4/11/11 at 10:55 pm to LSUGrad9295
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HINT: Leslie is going to play the QB which give him the best chance to keep his lucrative job. Political campaign? Are you serious? I swear I lose IQ points when I read the shite on this board sometimes.
I don't think Miles is political but I think that Lee/Jefferson freshmen year scared the coaching staff. Honestly, how many times have we thrown the ball deep consistently since then? Every now and then we will, but it seems we are completely horrified of throwing the deep ball. I think the idea of playing Jarrett Lee scares them. Up until now, there has been no other option so Miles has become very "comfortable" with Jefferson, even if he isn't all that effective. Notice how long it took Miles to actually sit him this past year.
Because of this, I think our offense remains very limited. And Miles prefers a QB like Jefferson who would rather run it than take a shot down field.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 10:56 pm to EricB
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HINT: Leslie is going to play the QB which give him the best chance to keep his lucrative job. Political campaign? Are you serious? I swear I lose IQ points when I read the shite on this board sometimes
Hint: After making these 'common sense' answers, you might want to provide some reasoning.
You kind of remind me of the guy who says, "you really think those guys on Wall Street would take your money and bet on you to lose?! Why would they want to lose your money?!"
Nice IQ comment though, that was well thought out.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 10:56 pm to 7thWardTiger
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AND WE'RE OFF!!!
Gary coached the most productive LSU offense ever with a serviceable quarterback. It's hard to have a decent offense with a QB that might possibly be the worst passing the ball in the country. It is what it is
Posted on 4/11/11 at 10:59 pm to NawlinsTigah270
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Gary coached the most productive LSU offense ever with a serviceable quarterback. It's hard to have a decent offense with a QB that might possibly be the worst passing the ball in the country. It is what it is
at what stop in Crowton's career did his offense's production not drop way off as he got to years 3 & 4?
Posted on 4/11/11 at 11:00 pm to EricB
You lost any shred of credibility when you made this comment:
This is one of the more idiotic things I have ever read here...I hope you re-read this and see how dumb it sounds.
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JJ, given extra drives when the wind was at his back so that he could have a chance to complete the pass that Mett made look so easy.
This is one of the more idiotic things I have ever read here...I hope you re-read this and see how dumb it sounds.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 11:03 pm to ForeLSU
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at what stop in Crowton's career did his offense's production not drop way off as he got to years 3 & 4?
At what point in Les' career has he lost less than 2 games? Does that make you lose all hope he won't change that this year?
Posted on 4/11/11 at 11:03 pm to EricB
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What did I see on the field? Some improvement, but also Les Miles stacking the odds against the challenger and favoring the incumbent. JJ, played with first string against second string. JJ, given extra drives when the wind was at his back so that he could have a chance to complete the pass that Mett made look so easy. Yes, I saw Les doing what he does best, and that is running a full blown political campaign.
Wow! JJ is the starter. Why wouldnt he get the majority of snaps? Mett scored and went rt back on to play for the other squad. I dont know what game you were watching.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 11:04 pm to LSUGrad9295
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JJ, given extra drives when the wind was at his back so that he could have a chance to complete the pass that Mett made look so easy.
I'll agree that's a stretch but look at the play breakdown and facts surrounding each QB's game.
Jefferson got to work with #1 offense. He still struggled completing some passes. Also, I would argue more plays were called for him.
Mettenberger was working with #2 or 3 offense. Completed some nice quick slants but didn't throw the ball much besides 3rd and long situations. At the very least, Mettenberger was limited in the number of plays he could capitalize on.
I honestly don't think that was entirely coincidental. At the very least, I don't think Miles wanted to come out of the game with the ENTIRE fanbase saying Mettenberger is better than Jefferson when Miles and Kragthorpe had made it clear throughout the entire spring camp that Jefferson was the #1 QB.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 11:08 pm to Joe Joe Joe
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I don't think Miles wanted to come out of the game with the ENTIRE fanbase saying Mettenberger is better than Jefferson when Miles and Kragthorpe had made it clear throughout the entire spring camp that Jefferson was the #1 QB.
You were making somewhat reasonable points until this. Les Miles does not give a flying shite about what the fanbase thinks about our QB situation, nor should he. If you think anything he did in the spring game was directed at making the fans think a certain way, then you have gained rantard status.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 11:09 pm to Joe Joe Joe
You guys are seriously putting way too much thought into theories and conspiracy about a damn glorified practice. It's getting crazy. If any of you believe that the coaches were trying to mind game the fans at the fricking spring game, you are nuts. I would bet my life that they do not care what the row 15 bleachers fan thinks much less try to trick the fans and play games. Seriously people.
This post was edited on 4/11/11 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 4/11/11 at 11:10 pm to rosiebean
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Was there an option to the short side during the spring game?
No, but there were 47 B gap tosses in the spring game. It worked against UT for 1 yard and we've been running it ever since.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 11:12 pm to TheBob
Vanilla playbook. I'm betting that you know this. They aren't going to call a bunch of crazy new plays with the cameras rolling. They had a practice and ran some base plays.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 11:14 pm to EricB
I didn't see much pitch-option.
I saw shots down field.
I saw a scat back get numerous carries.
I didn't see many passes thrown short of the 1st.
I saw shots down field.
I saw a scat back get numerous carries.
I didn't see many passes thrown short of the 1st.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 11:16 pm to TheBob
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No, but there were 47 B gap tosses in the spring game. It worked against UT for 1 yard and we've been running it ever since.
It's a good play. Especially to a talent like Ware. Gets him the ball early and lets him use his vision and lateral moves.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 11:19 pm to LSUGrad9295
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You were making somewhat reasonable points until this. Les Miles does not give a flying shite about what the fanbase thinks about our QB situation, nor should he. If you think anything he did in the spring game was directed at making the fans think a certain way, then you have gained rantard status.
I think Miles had a legitimate interest in it for two reasons. First, it would hurt the psyche of Jefferson. I think they have worked too hard to build up his confidence to see it crumble. And I think the playcalling was an attempt to limit outside influence on it (whether the influence was from newspaper writers or the fans booing the first moment Jefferson did something wrong next year). If you don't think the players read/listen to what people are saying, you are wrong.
Secondly, there is no benefit to Miles of having a QB controversy. He is going to prop up and praise Jefferson because he has made it clear that is who he thinks should be starting. Regardless of what you think, Miles still has to be concerned with people's perception of how he is doing his job. For a coach, that aspect never ends (even with a new contract extension). I find it very difficult to reconcile some of Miles' rhetoric regarding Mettenberger (i.e. "he has all the tools and he just needs to pick up the offense") with what is said about Jefferson and how he plays. Based on the spring game and last season, I often don't understand his profuse praise for Jefferson.
This post was edited on 4/11/11 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 4/11/11 at 11:21 pm to BeeFense5
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Vanilla playbook
The vanilla playbook excuse was used last spring game, and continued throughout the entire fricking season.
Not going into it much further because I do not want to be negative this year. I do believe that the head coach is full of shite though.
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